- Location
- West Wales
I didn’t think so :/
Any soil specialists or colleges/universities etc that would know where generally the figures should be?
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Any soil specialists or colleges/universities etc that would know where generally the figures should be?
Cab-over Pete
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- Location
- Kenilworth, Warwickshire
If there's no information to go by, carry out your own little experiment by liming a small area, maybe an acre or two, with an aim to reach pH 7
You will soon get the feel of whether it's made a difference over a pH around 6.0-6.2
I'm sure you know your land as well, if not better than anybody and after spending a lot of money you may just feel it hasn't really given the benefit you hoped. There are lots of situations where a high pH can give a good return on investment, but equally there are places where you can keep chucking money around for little gain.
It's a shame if you can't get really good quality lime to achieve your aim at a sensible cost.
You will soon get the feel of whether it's made a difference over a pH around 6.0-6.2
I'm sure you know your land as well, if not better than anybody and after spending a lot of money you may just feel it hasn't really given the benefit you hoped. There are lots of situations where a high pH can give a good return on investment, but equally there are places where you can keep chucking money around for little gain.
It's a shame if you can't get really good quality lime to achieve your aim at a sensible cost.
John Chance
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Both OK for where you are and Leiths are a reputable firm.
BIG thing is whether the stuff that arrives in the truck is the same as the sample that was analysed. All sorts of things can affect that.
Moisture content increases as the lime stockpiles in the quarry get rained on (easy to check with scales and oven) and you don't want to pay for water. Some quarries have freshly made stuff and older stocks (which can be damper). Ask for freshly made.
Handling and drops cause segregation, concentrating larger particles in bases and sides of heaps, so gradings can be different in different parts of quarry stockpiles. Screens meshes wear and sometimes end up with holes in them, leading to larger particles getting through, changing the grading over time. It's impossible to check small grading sizes (150mm) on the farm, but nothing to stop you telling them you are going to have a sample analysed for grading, which should keep them on their toes.
BIG thing is whether the stuff that arrives in the truck is the same as the sample that was analysed. All sorts of things can affect that.
Moisture content increases as the lime stockpiles in the quarry get rained on (easy to check with scales and oven) and you don't want to pay for water. Some quarries have freshly made stuff and older stocks (which can be damper). Ask for freshly made.
Handling and drops cause segregation, concentrating larger particles in bases and sides of heaps, so gradings can be different in different parts of quarry stockpiles. Screens meshes wear and sometimes end up with holes in them, leading to larger particles getting through, changing the grading over time. It's impossible to check small grading sizes (150mm) on the farm, but nothing to stop you telling them you are going to have a sample analysed for grading, which should keep them on their toes.
Crex
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- Location
- Innse Gall, Alba
Talk to your local SAC office about your options.
Righto, I’ve had couple of prices in, the Torlundy screened comes in at £37.08/t delivered, but they also do a milled flour that comes in at £52.28/t delivered, analysis is as follows:
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It is obviously far finer and going to be more effective, but is it value for money at a £15.20/t premium?
The Parkmore screened stuff is finer than the Torlundy screened, but at £53.92/t delivered it’s out of the question!
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It is obviously far finer and going to be more effective, but is it value for money at a £15.20/t premium?
The Parkmore screened stuff is finer than the Torlundy screened, but at £53.92/t delivered it’s out of the question!
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dyfxt110
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- Location
- north wales
No lime in llanddulas I’m afraid
SilliamWhale
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Where from?
They are registered as producers on the lime association website.
http://www.aglime.org.uk/suppliers/wales.php
quavers
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- Location
- aberdeenshire
in your situation would using pelleted lime not be the best option ?
quavers
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- Location
- aberdeenshire
2cwt the acre but you have to do it every year , there will be no carry over for the next year , have messed about with it and normal lime at a reasonable cost is the best option but in your case I would be going for pelleted and spreading on every year.
Cab-over Pete
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- Location
- Kenilworth, Warwickshire
It still might be the best option though.
bobajob
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- Location
- Sw Scotland
You usually put pelleted lime on at a lesser rate say 150kg/ ac. Wether it will do your job or not I don’t know, it doesn’t last as long.
How big an area are you needing to lime?
Is beach sand/ shells no good, even if you were allowed to use it?!
How big an area are you needing to lime?
Is beach sand/ shells no good, even if you were allowed to use it?!
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bobajob
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- Location
- Sw Scotland
Lime is a good investment, you will see a difference. Stock is healthier too. It’s a lot of money in your case though,
(one of the many reasons why farming is migrating to easier farmed more accessible regions for its inputs and markets)
(one of the many reasons why farming is migrating to easier farmed more accessible regions for its inputs and markets)
quavers
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- Location
- aberdeenshire
going to cost you £ 10000 plus just for the lime , pelleted cost about £1000 a year and spread it your self , try some if it works it works ,friend yous it next to village where normal lime spreading would cause a issue with dust and neighbours , noticed a vast improvement in his grass land .