Re: Need advice about what to do after a TB reactor in cattle

[Guest]

Hi,

I've had a private tb test on 8 cattle, that are due to be sold next week. I've got my results tomorrow and I noticed that I've got one with a lump on the bottom and nothing on top. It looks as though I'll be going down with tb. Will I be able to sell the other seven cattle or am I going to be completely shut down?

Thanks

 

[mo!]

You should be able to sell direct to slaughter under license. You will be shut down.

 

[gatepost]

bad luck happened to me last week, now completely shut down, including attached holdings, we can fatten what we have got, but can't buy in.

 

[Beef farmer]

What part of the country are you?

 

[Guest]

North Shropshire

 

[pappuller]

Is it for pre movement ? Accidents do happen, legs get broken on slippery yards and stock have to be sent to the knackerman.

 

[Beef farmer]

Is it for pre movement ? Accidents do happen, legs get broken on slippery yards and stock have to be sent to the knackerman.

Sad but true

 

[Princess Pooper]

Is it for pre movement ? Accidents do happen, legs get broken on slippery yards and stock have to be sent to the knackerman.

don't be an idiot. If he has TB in his herd it is better that the whole herd is tested to get it cleared out. I also think there are rules about sending even casualty or deadstock mid way in a test for obvious reasons.

To the OP, we were convinced we had a reactor this year (we had a breakdown 2 years ago) but by the time the readings were done the bottom lump had reduced in size and she passed. She has since been culled with no comeback.

No. unfortunately the other 7 cannot be sold as planned and you will be shut down.

 

[pappuller]

don't be an idiot. If he has TB in his herd it is better that the whole herd is tested to get it cleared out. I also think there are rules about sending even casualty or deadstock mid way in a test for obvious reasons.

To the OP, we were convinced we had a reactor this year (we had a breakdown 2 years ago) but by the time the readings were done the bottom lump had reduced in size and she passed. She has since been culled with no comeback.

No. unfortunately the other 7 cannot be sold as planned and you will be shut down.

Sorry Boss, was merely tossing an idea in the air. Not that anything like that ever happens.

 

[Zippy768]

Wait until you have had the 2nd day before worrying

 

[jondear]

Might just be a fatty lump .Had it before convinced a reactor. When vet looks worry then!

 

[Sid]

Might just be a fatty lump .Had it before convinced a reactor. When vet looks worry then!

I never look at cattle before the reading as it causes worry for nothing. Let the calipers and the vet make the decision. Lump may be squishy, top may come up to meet it.
Let the vet judge it

 

[GTB]

As said, never stress about lumps until the vet confirms it. If you do have TB it needs sorting rather than doing something stupid and spreading it about. If it turns out to be an IR you may well be allowed to sell the others, depending on your farm's TB history.

 

[mo!]

Is it for pre movement ? Accidents do happen, legs get broken on slippery yards and stock have to be sent to the knackerman.

What a stupid thing to do.

What a stupid thing to put on a public forum. For your sake I hope AHDB aren't reading this.

 

[Northeastfarmer]

What a stupid thing to do.

What a stupid thing to put on a public forum. For your sake I hope AHDB aren't reading this.

Or the rspca

 

[mo!]

Or the rspca

Or the black and white rabbit huggers.

 

[Granite Farmer]

Hi,

I've had a private tb test on 8 cattle, that are due to be sold next week. I've got my results tomorrow and I noticed that I've got one with a lump on the bottom and nothing on top. It looks as though I'll be going down with tb. Will I be able to sell the other seven cattle or am I going to be completely shut down?

Thanks

If you go down there are a number of options available to you. You can sell the clean cattle at an orange market where people with AFUs will buy them. Or you can sell them privately to another TB restricted holding subject to getting a license and their TB status being the same as yours. I think Halls do a 'Red' market which is direct to slaughter. All the info you can find online.

 

[matthew]

Don't beat yourself up until the vet has measured. As said, any lumps can disappear by 72 hours, or others appear. Also a 'circumscribed' reaction is treated diferently to 'odema'.

Options if the worst happens are limited until you have had a whole herd test. Licences are discretionary, and except for slaughter, a herd test is now a prerequisite before you can move anything at all..
You say this is a preMT, but not whether you are dairy or beef? Obviously options for dairy animals will be different from AFU beef requirements.

 

[Guest]

Beef herd and they were tested on Tuesday.

 

[hendrebc]

Or the black and white rabbit huggers.

Or any neighbours with a closed herd that are struggling to ger rid of tb