Red Tractor Enviromental Module
- Thread starter Cuckoo's nest
- Start date
- Location
- Yorks
Their protein concentrates would have a good high % protein on the label, but might as well feed fresh air as feed keratin.BOCM weren’t stupid.
OK if you want hairy cows.
Agree - the hypocrisy of the current situation is not sustainable.
If BSE was caused by poor feed ingredients then why risk it again? That is a question for AIC.
farmerm
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- Location
- Shropshire
It is not happening 
for now......
www.farminguk.com
for now......
Red Tractor agrees to put Greener Farms Commitment standard on hold
Red Tractor has put its controversial Greener Farms Commitment standard on hold until NFU's review into the assurance body's governance is completed.
Bit like eating spinach and thinking you’re gonna be awash with iron. Except we barely absorb any of it.
Shiny new me came back from Uni back in the day ready to conquer the world using steamdriven rationing software. I quickly learnt that an ME of 11.5 and an ME of 11.5 could actually turn out to be wildly different. An analysis is just a rough starting point.
Daniel
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- Location
- Mildenhall, Suffolk
I do hope you’re all supporting the sugar beet farmers this week in the battle against British Sugar? For those unaware last week British Sugar ignored the NFU Sugar negotiating team (a small unit that does a good job) having been unable to pursuade them to accept a price decrease against a background of record world sugar prices, and made a risible unilateral offer to the growers.
These are the opening salvos in the wider war against the ever encroaching hand of big business and big audit against the farmers imo. I do hope @Grass And Grain and the BFU are as one with NFU sugar on this.
The line needs to hold tomorrow morning when the portal opens, if we can get British Sugar back to the negotiating table then the wider industry can build on this as we push back against Red Tractor etc.
These are the opening salvos in the wider war against the ever encroaching hand of big business and big audit against the farmers imo. I do hope @Grass And Grain and the BFU are as one with NFU sugar on this.
The line needs to hold tomorrow morning when the portal opens, if we can get British Sugar back to the negotiating table then the wider industry can build on this as we push back against Red Tractor etc.
From 65 pages of this thread i get the impression whether i like it or not that Red Tractor will remain for another 20 yrs... I have no angle on this but all i read from Cyber Grandees is All TALK and NO ACTION... therefore No credibility... good luck activists but time for me to follow threads on the latest plough designs...
SilliamWhale
Member
Cheerio then.
There has already been a lot of achievement and GFC has been put on the backfoot and RT is having a review and lots of bodies are being scrutinised like never before. But thanks for the lack of support.
- Location
- Yorks
It's easier for growers to have a year off beet and plant barley, than it is for BS to be without any beet to process next season.
What have NFU sugar said to growers?
- Location
- Yorks
After nearly 3 years feeling like David vs Goliath, all of a sudden we're making inroads. The pack of cards might just be falling, it's certainly wobbling.
We really need to keep going. Surprising what can be achieved by writing a few letters.
- Location
- Bedfordshire
According to TB on Wardy's waffle - 'don't sign'.
Daniel
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- Location
- Mildenhall, Suffolk
This was the official communication, a lot more was said in an online meeting to 550 odd growers on Friday evening.
Didnt you make your appologies for not attending the first AGM?? Pot kettle William? Bye....
- Location
- Yorks
I understand BS is a special case because they've got a monopoly position, so the farmers can also legally negotiate as a single group. If that's the case, hopefully they'll stick together.
Suppose that doesn't stop BS approaching other farmers, but I might be inclined, if NFU were asking for £40 (and if it's a genuinely reasonable price), and seen as BS have left the table to go direct to individual growers for £38, to up the offer price to £42, and tell BS NFU will he pulling the offe price on Friday.
- Location
- Yorks
Good luck to NFU Sugar. Presumably group negotiation like this gets a better price than BS picking growers off one by one. NFU or AHDB should do this for other sectors, but in a slightly different way. e.g. group negotiate for all the McCain chip growers. I think that should be perfectly legal.
SilliamWhale
Member
Yep. Whats wrong with that?
- Location
- Cirencester
Ironic when they accuse BS of this and yet they (NFU) are very happy to disadvantage cereal growers with RT.
Good for you @Huno. Nice to see you’re being your usual helpful self. Give yourself a pat on the back.
Daniel
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- Location
- Mildenhall, Suffolk
My personal view is that £40/t and the option of having 50% of your tonnage to trade on the futures market should be the offer. (Last year it was 20%)
If you sold today at that you’d average £50/t, if you hold it and the market collapses then that’s your risk and British Sugar A) haven’t had to offer more than last year and B) won’t lose out of the market goes against them.
I agree that NFU should make a public counter offer tomorrow morning and time limit it. Tell BS it goes up a fiver a week until they sign.
Sugar Beet is RT as well