Returning unused autumn herbicides?

[GBS]

Hello all and Happy New Year.
I’m trying to get an idea of how many if any agricultural agchem suppliers are prepared to take back unused autumn herbicides. Our buying group are saying that no one is taking product back and that it’s got to be paid for on the usual due date.

is this most people’s experience or are some suppliers being more helpful than others. I’m just trying to get an idea of what others are finding.
Thanks in advance for any information

 

[Barleymow]

does the invoice say belongs to supplier until paid for?

 

[deleted user 837354]

I think you will find the involvement of any buying group will leave the relationship between actual supplier and customer a very short and fairly loveless one.

The supplier will have had to send the stuff out the door for not a lot of margin and may even have had to order the stuff in addition to his usual volume and so won't want to extend much service behind it as a result.

This is the brass tacks reality. You paid bottom dollar for supply and it was supplied.

 

[David.]

I'm afraid you order in good faith and you pay up. Same as fertiliser.
Like the rest of us, you can take it as a life lesson, and let the experience inform your opinion next year when you are asked to commit, before harvest, to buying inputs nearly a growing season in advance of their being required...

 

[deleted user 837354]

I'm afraid you order in good faith and you pay up. Same as fertiliser.
Like the rest of us, you can take it as a life lesson, and let the experience inform your opinion next year when you are asked to commit, before harvest, to buying inputs nearly a growing season in advance of their being required...

Or deal with an actual supplier and pay him sums of money that provide him with a margin that means he has enough backfat to weather this kind of issue and make a profit whilst providing a service.

 

[neilo]

Or deal with an actual supplier and pay him sums of money that provide him with a margin that means he has enough backfat to weather this kind of issue and make a profit whilst providing a service.

Really? I can’t imagine any of the (much more expensive) ‘serviced’ guys I’ve used being very keen to take 7nused Autumn herbicides back in January either.

My inde agronomist puts orders in via his own buying group, which have usually been via one company. My account is with that company, who’s delivery has been every bit as good (actually with less problems) than any of those previous suppliers, prices have generally been 10-20% lower and returns of unopened drums haven’t been an issue if still within the selling season.
I wouldn’t expect them to take anything back that they had to sit on for 9+ months though, that’s down to me buying what I didn’t need, so my cost to sit on it imo.

Being a miserable pessimist, I didn’t order any Autumn herbicides, so not an issue this time. As the service is always so good from Procam, I only generally order when I need it in the next few days anyway. Like many I suspect, I am sitting on some CTL that might have to be used earlier than planned on Spring cereals, and on some slug pellets that I decided the Winter Barley didn’t justify (throwing good money after bad).

 

[Gedd]

Agrovista took mine back no bother

 

[DRC]

My serviced guy will take mine back. Not as much ever arrived, with only 18 acres ever a possibility of spraying, so it won’t break either of us.

 

[teslacoils]

Buying group will have paid for it by now, so that card can't be played.

 

[GBS]

Thanks for the feedback, much appreciated.