Reviving neglected land

Anymulewilldo

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Cheshire
Get it severely sheeped until the end of March. If funds are tight, find someone with a lot of ewes too graze. Gives you a bit of cash and you can start the spring clean and the thatch will be gone. Then you can start with your own stock rotating around. As funds allow you can spray and start too improve it as you go.
Ideally 150 feeding ewes of your own, fence it and graze them then get the trough out with them. They will flesh up faster and the resulting muck going back in will slowly start too improve your soils. 👍👍

well done for getting the ground in the first place!
 

Bucks Boy

Member
Mixed Farmer
I wouldn’t bring anybody else stock on to this land. After 3 years of nothing it will be be worm and footrot free. All you will do is bring everbody’s problems onto your land. Zolvix your own sheep 48 hours before you move them on. Get rid of anything with foot problems. I did this and have no lame sheep or worms. Find a contractor who will take some of the hay as payment. It worked for me.
 
The bloke asked how to rejuvenate knackered land. I gave a couple of options. He didn't say he wanted to do it on a shoestring and actually all he has is a dog and a quad.

If he has modest stock numbers then he won't miss a field or two being in cereals, maybe the contractor will farm it for him and take the grain and straw off etc. Similar for hay.

Whatever he does if he wants clean herbal swards then he will need to put a break of some kind in otherwise he will be wasting some pretty expensive herbage seed.

You quad dog and stick farmers are no fun!
 

Chris123

Member
Location
Shropshire
It’s not neglected land it’s called rewilding keep up with times for bonus environmental points Plant a few trees around it
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The bloke asked how to rejuvenate knackered land. I gave a couple of options. He didn't say he wanted to do it on a shoestring and actually all he has is a dog and a quad.

If he has modest stock numbers then he won't miss a field or two being in cereals, maybe the contractor will farm it for him and take the grain and straw off etc. Similar for hay.

Whatever he does if he wants clean herbal swards then he will need to put a break of some kind in otherwise he will be wasting some pretty expensive herbage seed.

You quad dog and stick farmers are no fun!
He said he hasn’t a massive budget. That to me means he needs to make some money not blow it all then have nothing to buy stock. Dog and stick until you can improve
 

TlymarT_028

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
North West
How long have you got the ground for? How secure is your lease?

As mentioned earlier , how long and secure have you got land for !!
Hope your not being the one to "tidy it up" for someone else to have back...

Not trying to put dampener on it hope it goes well for you.
Sounds a good opportunity 👍
Hopefully indefinitely.... the owners have said they would like it to be me and my partners home and they want to see it put back to how it used to be - currently it's a rolling 10 year tenancy with the ability to buy land bit by bit starting with an owned lot of 15 acres.
 

TlymarT_028

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
North West
I wouldn’t bring anybody else stock on to this land. After 3 years of nothing it will be be worm and footrot free. All you will do is bring everbody’s problems onto your land. Zolvix your own sheep 48 hours before you move them on. Get rid of anything with foot problems. I did this and have no lame sheep or worms. Find a contractor who will take some of the hay as payment. It worked for me.
Very much like the idea of using the hay as payment for clearing it. Do you think there would be a want for the hay even with the weeds in it? Found it to be a fair bale for bedding and sold 20 bales of stuff off it before the tenancy was secure to a fella just over the hill who said the cattle went mad for it!
 

TlymarT_028

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
North West
The bloke asked how to rejuvenate knackered land. I gave a couple of options. He didn't say he wanted to do it on a shoestring and actually all he has is a dog and a quad.

If he has modest stock numbers then he won't miss a field or two being in cereals, maybe the contractor will farm it for him and take the grain and straw off etc. Similar for hay.

Whatever he does if he wants clean herbal swards then he will need to put a break of some kind in otherwise he will be wasting some pretty expensive herbage seed.

You quad dog and stick farmers are no fun!
As said above - I do really like the idea of using a contractor/borrowing machinery and using the products as payment I'm just not as sure on the logistics!
 

Poorbuthappy

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Devon
The bloke asked how to rejuvenate knackered land. I gave a couple of options. He didn't say he wanted to do it on a shoestring and actually all he has is a dog and a quad.

If he has modest stock numbers then he won't miss a field or two being in cereals, maybe the contractor will farm it for him and take the grain and straw off etc. Similar for hay.

Whatever he does if he wants clean herbal swards then he will need to put a break of some kind in otherwise he will be wasting some pretty expensive herbage seed.

You quad dog and stick farmers are no fun!
He did say he didn't have massive funds.
I'd rather spend money on stock to do the work for me than contractors and sprays etc.
 

unlacedgecko

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Fife
Hopefully indefinitely.... the owners have said they would like it to be me and my partners home and they want to see it put back to how it used to be - currently it's a rolling 10 year tenancy with the ability to buy land bit by bit starting with an owned lot of 15 acres.
Lucky you! I hope you make a great success of it. Having a secure base like that makes all the difference.
 

primmiemoo

Member
Location
Devon
Very much like the idea of using the hay as payment for clearing it. Do you think there would be a want for the hay even with the weeds in it? Found it to be a fair bale for bedding and sold 20 bales of stuff off it before the tenancy was secure to a fella just over the hill who said the cattle went mad for it!
Be careful about selling bales with ragwort in. His buyer might know the risks, but not all will. Hand rogueing ragwort is a huge chore, but it can be done. Please do use impermeable gloves, though. Your liver will thank you for that.
 

Highland Mule

Member
Livestock Farmer
Be careful about selling bales with ragwort in. His buyer might know the risks, but not all will. Hand rogueing ragwort is a huge chore, but it can be done. Please do use impermeable gloves, though. Your liver will thank you for that.
I was going to suggest that if the fella over the hill likes them then it might be worth offering to sell it as standing crop to him. That way he would know the contents and would also remove any need for machines.

I’d reckon on £5-£10 a bale for the crop income, with no costs for @JP_028 .
 

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