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And raped of any nutrients due to the dung being removed on a daily basis.Have you ever seen horse pasture? It’s normally the most diverse selection of weeds known to man!
And raped of any nutrients due to the dung being removed on a daily basis.Have you ever seen horse pasture? It’s normally the most diverse selection of weeds known to man!
For the same reason the Carbon Footprint of horses or dogs isn't ever questioned.
Thousands of acres are used around here to supply horses with feed, yet it's cattle that are killing the planet.
Breeding more pets and horses while thousands are destroyed is utter madness.
Probably because, the vegans have found “horse people” even more irrational than they are.So basically - horses have a massive carbon footprint, and use more than just the land they are on. Plus aren't essential. Sounds like a vegan's wet-dream. Why are they hassling livestock farmers then.
So basically we need to do the same as the French and then theySo basically - horses have a massive carbon footprint, and use more than just the land they are on. Plus aren't essential. Sounds like a vegan's wet-dream. Why are they hassling livestock farmers then.
Don't get me wrong I have no issue with horses or dogs, as a household we have both, although the dog does work.So basically - horses have a massive carbon footprint, and use more than just the land they are on. Plus aren't essential. Sounds like a vegan's wet-dream. Why are they hassling livestock farmers then.
Thats 8tons of rugs,haynets, rubber matting,grooming kit and plastic. Then 1 ton of manure.According to Surrey County Council each pony produces 9 tonnes of muck per year, so up to 9 million tonnes of manure - valuable resource when fertiliser is through the roof!
I remember when the original SFP payments came out and golf courses were claiming. I distinctly reading a list of SFP claimants, which were publishedHow about golf courses? Apparently 2% of the UK's land is covered in golf courses (this figure is subject to a considerable amount of debate) so how come there's no demands for them to be rewilded too?
Make the game a real challenge with Wolves lying in wait, just off the fairway...How about golf courses? Apparently 2% of the UK's land is covered in golf courses (this figure is subject to a considerable amount of debate) so how come there's no demands for them to be rewilded too?
More like 9 tonnes of woodchip, mixed with a smidge of actual dung, IME.According to Surrey County Council each pony produces 9 tonnes of muck per year, so up to 9 million tonnes of manure - valuable resource when fertiliser is through the roof!
Why is this never discussed? Why is it always farming land that has to be re-wilded?
Is it because a lot of the people who support re-wilding also like horse riding. Surely a hobby shouldn't carry more weight than feeding a nation?
On a slight tangent, has anyone ever managed to get grazing on a golf course? There's a whopper I drive past near us, looks prime for some Belties or similar on all that rough stuff. Or is that part of the golf pitch?How about golf courses? Apparently 2% of the UK's land is covered in golf courses (this figure is subject to a considerable amount of debate) so how come there's no demands for them to be rewilded too?
My old boss’s Herefords grazed a golf course a couple of times. Can’t say it was asked for though!On a slight tangent, has anyone ever managed to get grazing on a golf course? There's a whopper I drive past near us, looks prime for some Belties or similar on all that rough stuff. Or is that part of the golf pitch?
Because we don’t eat horses.So basically - horses have a massive carbon footprint, and use more than just the land they are on. Plus aren't essential. Sounds like a vegan's wet-dream. Why are they hassling livestock farmers then.
I'd rather put it into productive grazing- maybe we could have a horse paddock levy
No debate needed. No way it can be correct. 2% would be over 1 million acres and there’s “only” about 2-3k courses in the country.
That's for England, not the UK. There's a huge difference between the two in terms of urban/rual mix. Have a look at how much grouse moor is owned by Anders Povlsen on his own.There's a discussion on the point here:
Apparently the figure was arrived at by a housing consultant using some back of an envelope calculations. The consensus of the article is that 2% was pushing it, but that a quite surprising amount of land is indeed taken over by golf courses and gold related activities.
We have a vegetarian couple who come for milk. They remind us they are vegetarian at any and every possible opportunity. They spent ages telling me about a rewilding project they had read about in the paper, how fantastic it was and how they would love the countryside around here to be completely rewilded. They asked if I'd consider doing it here, so I asked if they would consider changing their diet from vegetarian to eating mainly meat. They didn't understand so I pointed out that the only food to be produced on these rewilded farms is meat. You don't see any carrot fields being rewilded. If that's the system they wanted then that's the system they would have to support. They've never mentioned it again.
So basically we need to do the same as the French and then they
will all take notice.
Their relationship with agriculture and food is also very different to here.The French people have a much closer connection with nature than anyone in the UK. And they eat virtually anything. Anything that moves or grows is usually eaten with gusto. They also know how to tell their government to fudge off and rethink plans they don't agree with. We could learn a lot from them.