rhi audit

[markbury1]

Just had results of my audit .Ofgem say my fuel is not valid.
I purchase bales off cut timber from a valid bsl supplier his number appears on each invoice.
They are saying the slab wood does not have a renewable cert.
What i find hard to understand is that the firm i buy the bales from process the same wood into wood chip i just buy it before they do this. Therefore if the bales are not valid so must the wood chip............your thoughts gentlemen.......

 

[Recoil]

Sounds crazy

 

[Fowler VF]

Maybe their BSL accreditation only specifies chip and not the slab as well? Wouldn't take a lot of doing for the supplier to add the slab into the same or another accreditation?

It would be very interesting and useful if you were able to share with us the scope of your Ofgem audit and what they looked at. I guess we will all probably get one sometime; so nice to be prepared!

 

[Doing it for the kids]

^^^ + 1 big time!

Hopefully being a self supplier will be easier though?

Good luck with it

 

[Wastexprt]

Maybe their BSL accreditation only specifies chip and not the slab as well? Wouldn't take a lot of doing for the supplier to add the slab into the same or another accreditation?

It would be very interesting and useful if you were able to share with us the scope of your Ofgem audit and what they looked at. I guess we will all probably get one sometime; so nice to be prepared!

That's how I would read it. At a recent meeting with a BSL auditor he mentioned that there is quite a lot of shenanigans occurring in the chip supply and burning thereof business.......

 

[akaPABLO01]

Seems like the audits are rolling out, I have 2 sites a week before Christmas.

 

[dannewhouse]

would they allow you to burn the slabs had they been loose?
otherwise always store some "proper" fuel and try telling them you only burn this?

 

[renewablejohn]

Just had results of my audit .Ofgem say my fuel is not valid.
I purchase bales off cut timber from a valid bsl supplier his number appears on each invoice.
They are saying the slab wood does not have a renewable cert.
What i find hard to understand is that the firm i buy the bales from process the same wood into wood chip i just buy it before they do this. Therefore if the bales are not valid so must the wood chip............your thoughts gentlemen.......

Thats the reason why I told them where to stick there BSL registration. All my timber below 12 inch diameter goes through a processor into logs. Above 12 inch is converted into boards with outer slab wood turned into chip. A lot of people will be caught out thankfully I no longer have that red tape to worry about.

 

[markbury1]

Maybe their BSL accreditation only specifies chip and not the slab as well? Wouldn't take a lot of doing for the supplier to add the slab into the same or another accreditation?

It would be very interesting and useful if you were able to share with us the scope of your Ofgem audit and what they looked at. I guess we will all probably get one sometime; so nice to be prepared!

The audit went very well i try do do everything properly.The chap went through everything fuel records pipework, looked for illegal heat use checked moisture content of wood examined the meter and so on. He had no problem with the wood i use saw and checked the bsl number "fine" he said. Ofgem have taken a different view.

 

[Doing it for the kids]

How much notice did they give you? It will take me a few hours to find the paper work in the office!

 

[markbury1]

How much notice did they give you? It will take me a few hours to find the paper work in the office!

They gave me 2 weeks notice

 

[warksfarmer]

The audit went very well i try do do everything properly.The chap went through everything fuel records pipework, looked for illegal heat use checked moisture content of wood examined the meter and so on. He had no problem with the wood i use saw and checked the bsl number "fine" he said. Ofgem have taken a different view.

This is why own supply of fuel is an easier option. If your buying fuel in I would think your on a high tariff? And they are the ones being targeted.

 

[snarling bee]

A friend of mine has had his RHI payments suspended because all 4 houses still had electric immersion heaters and one house still had an old oil boiler installed.
I can understand the boiler, but you should be allowed hot water backup if the renewable boiler broke.

 

[Bernt]

it depends where the heat meters are fitted. if its technically possible( however unlikely) for the meter to register heat from another source other than the biomass, this is deemed against the protocol for the Rhi and payments will be stopped. This is when you put the heat meters on the district heating side of the plate exchanger but after the motorised valve. Theres nothing wrong with having oil boilers or immersion heaters in the system, it just cant go through the heat meter

 

[Doing it for the kids]

I have both.

It's all down to system design, 1 way valves and meter locations

 

[Still Farming]

If Ofgem and the Independant verification person have passed it at application stage should'nt all be ok ?

 

[Bernt]

exactly!

 

[Bernt]

like everything else, goalposts move when they want them to!!!
Weve been to loads of installs that have been "passed" by an "independant" assessor that would never have been passed by our inspector.

 

[Still Farming]

But as said "its as is at that moment in time"so things move on.
What about GHG calculations-they seem worst bit to me ?

 

[farmerfred86]

It seemed sensible at the time to leave it in place incase the woodchip boiler failed for any reason down the line... And certainly not green to remove and scrap it when it worked!