River Lugg, Herefordshire

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Exfarmer

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Like all the roadside ditches, leave them as they are , makes no difference cleaning them as it will only need doing in 5 years time. So now the ditches are full, the water runs free down the road. The edges of the road are now softened by the water and the edges are crumbling as a result.
what could possibly be wrong with that ?
 

Werzle

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They dont seem to have realised that rivers and ditches are designed to flow and actually transport water ,and because they have let them clog with fallen trees and silt up around bridges etc the water is swelling up and flooding places worse than ever. All the new ideas involve slowing water which only works if floods happen months apart which they dont in winter.
 
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Henarar

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Somerset
They dont seem to have realised that rivers and ditches are designed to flow and actually transport water ,and because they have let them clog with fallen trees etc the water is swelling up and flooding places worse than ever. All the new ideas involve slowing water which only works if floods happen months apart which they dont in winter.
who designed rivers ?
 

Kidds

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Have some larg trees falling into river with under mining by river what chance of being able to repaire bank.
Just get on with it, if anyone asks what happened tell them it was storm/flood damage.
More farmers need to be like the chap on the River Lugg and put right that which needs fixing.
I had a big stream/small river through my place and just did what was necessary, dredging, removing trees etc. I don't think anyone noticed and if they did nothing was ever said, just deny all knowledge if asked.
Remember Cameron's "big society" where individuals or groups should take more responsibility for their bit? He was right about that one.
 
I think the Vrnwy's record levels are showing.
Just heard that the house on our old holding has been flooded today.
When we were there it was notable that all the old houses managed to stay above the flood water, even though the water lapped up to the buildings.
It must be bad there
Can’t say I’ve noticed the broiler sheds built up significantly if at all from the rest of the farmstead.
Don’t know if you’ve been down there lately but an awful lot has changed since you left.
The cattle shed nearest the road has been transformed into the new owners head office.
The fields across the road are now all part of the market garden, no doubt with pits strewn everywhere after the recent winds.

One of the next door farms is now the base for the contracting operation with several sheds and workshops put up, although I know the flood has been in the workshop before.
The other neighbouring farm has some large sheds housing youngstock which are built up higher than the existing sheds which have flooded previously along with straw and grain storage.

As I say a lot has changed, I guess they will now know how much was built up high enough and how much wasn’t

When the water has receded I will have to go down there to see what’s happened on my own land, fences are usually gone by the river after a big flood
 

Bury the Trash

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less sheep, longer grass, a thatched roof over hillside soil.....?
I can see you need some 'reassurance' chap.:unsure:

as i ve said before :sleep:
if you want understand water runoff or its oppo percolation etc then best first study geology .(y)

other than that its common and countryside sense,which see here ive dumbed down a bit for those that dont or havnt the above :sneaky:

a plateau thats relief is self retaining (its over impermeable rock) then the likes of peat bog will store water and be wet all year round but on hillsides that are well drained through their slope naturally with thin soils and that same impermeable rock underneath then those hills will have a high drainage density, naturally meaning water rushes off well ... and will in certain times of year be very dry and for periods of time, a lot of unmanaged by man topgrowth will then be a risk of fires ,(fires which have always been a thing, through lightning strike since prehistoric days like with dinosaors ) especially if someone has a barbicue or camp fire in the wrong place.
 

Henarar

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Somerset
The same chap who designed ponds and he pointed rivers at the sea to "flow"
There were rivers before there were people designing them, once you design or 'manage' a river or its flood plain or build on it you have to carry on managing it or you get flooding where you don't want it, we have just made a rod for our own back by building in the wrong place, strange though even now we know its the wrong place we still do it.
 

Werzle

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There were rivers before there were people designing them, once you design or 'manage' a river or its flood plain or build on it you have to carry on managing it or you get flooding where you don't want it, we have just made a rod for our own back by building in the wrong place, strange though even now we know its the wrong place we still do it.
I agree but even a fool can see the benefit of general waterway maintenance , clearing bridge arches and pollarding trees blocking flow isnt rocket science. They dont even do downstream of towns so the slowing of water theory seems an excuse to do sfa
 
Pollarding trees before the broken hanging branches ruin the trunk , kill the roots and erode the river bank would help the voles and the let the river flow. I think half the reason rivers are testing high for pollution is because the water is stagnant. Do newts live in rivers?!

No but they may live withIn 500m in a pond which means the whole area is locked down...

Why are newts so special anyway!?
 
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