River Lugg, Herefordshire

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steveR

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So what's happened way downstream now that all that water has been speeded up?
I agree with what they did but has it caused problems elsewhere. Is the river mouth keeping up?


Water just heading on down towards the Wye, as it always does. Confluence with the Wye, East of Hereford is looking wet, but again, it always does.

Pretty sure the Severn Estuary will cope :)
 

Simon Chiles

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Probably more likely for various flooded individuals taking the EA to court citing the work done on the Lugg as an example of how things should be done, either way it shows the EA in a very poor light.

And justifiably so. Listening to EA spokeswomen and spokesmen today on the telly talking about the flooding and how they were helping, I felt like chucking a brick at the box!!
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Phew! I’m glad I’m not the only one. You’d be very miffed listening to her about what a wonderful job they’d done if your house was full of sewage.
 

Scholsey

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Think the EA have turned their attention to this 20 miles down stream on the Wye, 20mm of rain in a day caused this.......
 

JD6920s

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Shropshire
So what's happened way downstream now that all that water has been speeded up?
I agree with what they did but has it caused problems elsewhere. Is the river mouth keeping up?
Every town, city council or water board should be responsible for their stretch of the waterways and maintain accordingly, then there would be no problem. Adjustable weirs and reservoirs should be built in the necessary places to control and store water when needed and gently release when not. As I’ve said before, for a first world country in this day and age we should not be allowing people’s homes to be flooded!
 

puppet

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sw scotland
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Think the EA have turned their attention to this 20 miles down stream on the Wye, 20mm of rain in a day caused this.......
No farmer wants their soil to wash away. However, if the whole country was turned over to growing veg rather than having grazing livestock then this will be amplified a thousand times. The ant-livestock lobby cannot see this.
Does SoilPatrol go round towns asking why every garden and drive is getting paved over?
 

Steevo

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Gloucestershire
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Think the EA have turned their attention to this 20 miles down stream on the Wye, 20mm of rain in a day caused this.......

Why visit the farmer...?!

Did he order the rain...?
Did he apply the 20mm of rain...?!
Where are his rain application records?

Weather happens. Life happens.

Humans cannot control nature!
 

teslacoils

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Lincolnshire

Simon Chiles

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The EA and even “some “ TFF members can’t seem to grasp that watercourses etc need to be maintained to allow water to flow at the max flow, if those watercourses are
allowed to silt up there will be “no flow”. :banghead: :banghead::banghead::banghead:

The bit that hasn’t seemed to have sunk in with these people is that if you did a little bit of maintenance on a regular basis the environmental damage would be next to nothing. Abandon the water course until everything floods does massive environmental damage and even more sorting out what has then become a big problem. If you then factor in the damage to people’s houses, businesses and farm land you’d like to think that the regular maintenance was the obvious solution.
 

___\0/___

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SW Scotland
Why visit the farmer...?!

Did he order the rain...?
Did he apply the 20mm of rain...?!
Where are his rain application records?

Weather happens. Life happens.

Humans cannot control nature!

Willing to stand corrected on this but those guys get really upset about soil getting into watercourse because of Legacy P in the soil which is farmers fault (not saying this farmer has a problem though) they have did the tests and I think 75% is agriculture and the other 25% is sewage. No Legacy P in the soil then then soil erosion isn't as big a problem.

Possibly the work on the Lugg could stop soil erosion though.
 

Ted M

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Shropshire
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Think the EA have turned their attention to this 20 miles down stream on the Wye, 20mm of rain in a day caused this.......
Interesting to see on the left picture, the erosion is cutting across the drilling by the looks of it and then turning.
Obviously can't tell which way it was ploughed or the topography from the picture, but what do you do if a field slopes in both directions which many do?
 

Kidds

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Horticulture
Water was all running very red around here yesterday, obviously due to bad soil erosion but pretty much everywhere is grass. No obvious culprits that I could think of. Not trying to defend the guilty but its not just due to lack of groundcover.
 
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kiwi pom

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canterbury NZ
Every town, city council or water board should be responsible for their stretch of the waterways and maintain accordingly, then there would be no problem. Adjustable weirs and reservoirs should be built in the necessary places to control and store water when needed and gently release when not. As I’ve said before, for a first world country in this day and age we should not be allowing people’s homes to be flooded!

I agree but it all has to be paid for and organised and a standard has got to be agreed on. Not easy with thousands of land owners, different authorities, budgets and compliance costs.
One of those things that sounds simple but if you were given the job of sorting it you'd be tearing your hair out by lunchtime on day one.

If the answer to the nations drainage problems was to flood all of your farm, or have a river detour through your land, you'd say?
 
Willing to stand corrected on this but those guys get really upset about soil getting into watercourse because of Legacy P in the soil which is farmers fault (not saying this farmer has a problem though) they have did the tests and I think 75% is agriculture and the other 25% is sewage. No Legacy P in the soil then then soil erosion isn't as big a problem.

Possibly the work on the Lugg could stop soil erosion though.
What is legacy p ?
 
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