Round baling silage cost

[Ceri]

Some people have no other option I get that before I get harpooned by the round bale silage fan club.....

 

[Chris123]

Bloody hell wat planet r u on that's cheap we were paying £7.75 before things went crazy dear .......

Didn’t read my follow up post then it was a joke. I then posted the real prices we paid last year as well

 

[Ceri]

Didn’t read my follow up post then it was a joke. I then posted the real prices we paid last year as well

Sorry.... Funny I did think hell is this a wind up

 

[M-J-G]

I've never found that and spent years wrapping with trailed wrappers before Fusions arrived.
Every extra turn of the wrapper adds time.
If you're fitting a new roll you're not wrapping bales so you're losing money.
You have to buy more wrap that you'll have paid for long before your customers pay you.
You'll have to carry more wrap with you or get someone to bring extra wrap for the big jobs if you can't carry enough.
With a Fusion you often have to wait for the wrapper to finish when applying 6 layers in a dry, heavy crop.

Farmers supply the plastic here, changing a roll takes about a minute each and with a twin spool you'll keep up with the baler anyway, so nothing to gain from a man sitting waiting on bales.
With a static the pace is usually determined by the man on the handler as the wrapper is usually quicker than the man stacking.

With any contracting we do, we are paid for the job long before we reap the benefits of our own silage.
I get what uou mean, but the difference in time is miniscule IMO compared to things like working on steep land or small 2 or 3 acre fields.

 

[M-J-G]

According to the OP make a bale.

A fiver to bale a bale, do you want any work done?
How much to wrap it? I'll maybe bring a friend

 

[Wellytrack]

Farmers supply the plastic here, changing a roll takes about a minute each and with a twin spool you'll keep up with the baler anyway, so nothing to gain from a man sitting waiting on bales.
With a static the pace is usually determined by the man on the handler as the wrapper is usually quicker than the man stacking.

With any contracting we do, we are paid for the job long before we reap the benefits of our own silage.
I get what uou mean, but the difference in time is miniscule IMO compared to things like working on steep land or small 2 or 3 acre fields.

6 wraps to 4 is at least 15 bales an hour on a Fusion in heavy going.

 

[d williams]

A fiver to bale a bale, do you want any work done?
How much to wrap it? I'll maybe bring a friend

How much do you think your baler and tractor is deprecated a year or bale ?? Fuel cost per bale ?? Net cost per bale

 

[Wellytrack]

A fiver to bale a bale, do you want any work done?
How much to wrap it? I'll maybe bring a friend

Take your net wrap, diesel, Knives, maintenance and parts, depreciation on the baler, tractor, driver and turn up for the 30 bale jobs and 300 ones too and tell me how much you have left for yourself.

 

[Boohoo]

Farmers supply the plastic here, changing a roll takes about a minute each and with a twin spool you'll keep up with the baler anyway, so nothing to gain from a man sitting waiting on bales.
With a static the pace is usually determined by the man on the handler as the wrapper is usually quicker than the man stacking.

With any contracting we do, we are paid for the job long before we reap the benefits of our own silage.
I get what uou mean, but the difference in time is miniscule IMO compared to things like working on steep land or small 2 or 3 acre fields.

1 baler and 1 twin spool wrapper isn't efficient though, try 1 wrapper and 2 balers and then say that the time difference between 4 and 6 layers is miniscule.

 

[M-J-G]

1 baler and 1 twin spool wrapper isn't efficient though, try 1 wrapper and 2 balers and then say that the time difference between 4 and 6 layers is miniscule.

A twin spool can't keep 2 balers going efficiently in sensible sized fields.

I don't have 2 balers, but the man on the wrapper can do other jobs before he starts wrapping.

Do you charge extra on steep land or little fields?
I find those to be more inefficient than extra plastic

 

[Smokey16]

I will be charging around £9 baling and wrapping at 6 layers.When I run out of early bought wrap it will be £10(includes wrap and diesel)

What would you be charging for 4 layers

 

[M-J-G]

Take your net wrap, diesel, Knives, maintenance and parts, depreciation on the baler, tractor, driver and turn up for the 30 bale jobs and 300 ones too and tell me how much you have left for yourself.

But it's your choice to go to 30 bale jobs.
The customer getting 1000 bales done shouldn't have to pay for the fact that some contractors will spend half their day driving around the countryside and not working.

Those wee jobs need to be charged per hour with a minimum charge for turning up. Otherwise they're never going to make money.

 

[Wellytrack]

But it's your choice to go to 30 bale jobs.
The customer getting 1000 bales done shouldn't have to pay for the fact that some contractors will spend half their day driving around the countryside and not working.

Those wee jobs need to be charged per hour with a minimum charge for turning up. Otherwise they're never going to make money.

Right, so that 1000 bale customer also has the 30 bale job, so you don’t turn up for that? That’s a fair weather contractor and not one to be depended on.

 

[Boohoo]

A twin spool can't keep 2 balers going efficiently in sensible sized fields.

I don't have 2 balers, but the man on the wrapper can do other jobs before he starts wrapping.

Do you charge extra on steep land or little fields?
I find those to be more inefficient than extra plastic

A twin spool wrapper should be able to keep up with 2 balers, we used to run a single spool with 2 balers.
Customers here want bales wrapped straight away so they can start stacking them, there's no point in the wrapper turning up hours later.
Extra for steep land, little fields or small quantities would depend on how much of that type of work there is for each customer.

 

[M-J-G]

How much do you think your baler and tractor is deprecated a year or bale ?? Fuel cost per bale ?? Net cost per bale

The last I changed was at 32000 bales and lost £6000 from new price to trade in, and cost £9000 to change. (20 or 30p depending on how you wish to count it)
In that time it had about £3000 (10p) on parts
Farmers supply the fuel
This year's net is working out about 60 odd pence.
Tractor depreciation is difficult to allocate exactly until it's changed, last time round it cost 30 grand to move up 4000 hours (30p/bale @ 25 bales/hr)

 

[John Deere 8530]

Hi just wondered what other farmers will be paying this year for round baling and wrapping. Thanks

£3 a bale for baling
£2.50 a bale for wrapping
£3 a bale for 6 layers wrap, all 4ft

 

[Smokey16]

£3 a bale for baling
£2.50 a bale for wrapping
£3 a bale for 6 layers wrap, all 4ft

Is the £2.50 for 4layers

 

[M-J-G]

Right, so that 1000 bale customer also has the 30 bale job, so you don’t turn up for that? That’s a fair weather contractor and not one to be depended on.

You turn up, but he can't get the corner of a field baled at the same rate as he'll get 100 acres in one block done for, he'd be ignorant to expect that and it would be foolish to charge them at the same rate.

 

[John Deere 8530]

Is the £2.50 for 4layers

No that's for the actual wrapper and tractor.

 

[Smokey16]

Ah I see so you'll be charging £8.50 a bale