Roundup pre cutting hay?

[mcdonap2]

Anyone have any thoughts on this?
Did it before on Italian ryegrass. The heads were out and the field reseeded itself. Maybe I left the field too long between spraying and cutting (7days I think) and there was very little green in the hay. How long do people normally leave between spraying and cutting. Would a 3 day interval between spraying and cutting reduce the moisture of the grass much?

 

[neilo]

Is there a recc on the label? It always used to be 5 days iiirc.

 

[Jameshenry]

Anyone have any thoughts on this?
Did it before on Italian ryegrass. The heads were out and the field reseeded itself. Maybe I left the field too long between spraying and cutting (7days I think) and there was very little green in the hay. How long do people normally leave between spraying and cutting. Would a 3 day interval between spraying and cutting reduce the moisture of the grass much?

Is there any need for it ?

 

[neilo]

Is there any need for it ?

It would get a good kill prior to a reseed, letting you straight in for DD’ing?They hay would be made on a dry stubble, rather than something trying to regrow underneath?

The glyphosate would concentrate sugars in the grass before cutting, which might be a good or bad thing. Higher ME for livestock perhaps, or horses blowing their stacks?

 

[Bob the beef]

5 days max. Need a very reliable weather forecast

 

[egbert]

....and there's people want to ban it!
Is Roundup a recommended hay additive?

 

[Agrivator]

5 days max. Need a very reliable weather forecast

Or a wrapper

 

[Bury the Trash]

Italian ryegrass doesn't make very good hay anyway.

Italian ryegrass is easy to kill if you cut it regularly (making the best forage use) or graze tight and beyond 2yrs or so.

 

[Still Farming]

Think main worry is on Winter Wheat direct for human consumption?
Bit of hay may less stringent possibly.

 

[Nithsdale]

We have done it in the past (but just made silage instead of going for hay). Our seed and chemical merchant always stood by that you could cut 24hr after spraying, as the glyphosate would be down in the roots by then. We never tried it that quick, preferring to wait 5-6 days.

 

[Still Farming]

We have done it in the past (but just made silage instead of going for hay). Our seed and chemical merchant always stood by that you could cut 24hr after spraying, as the glyphosate would be down in the roots by then. We never tried it that quick, preferring to wait 5-6 days.

Leave longer and make better hay.
Not just good kill below ground .
"Sunshine in a can", old advertised slogan was'nt it?

 

[neilo]

....and there's people want to ban it!
Is Roundup a recommended hay additive?

It’s certainly on the label recc for some glyphosate products, or it used to be anyway.
Only ever tried it once, to clear a field that was mostly couch. Not particularly effective and i’ve Not done it since, but any possible residue in the crop wouldn’t be a worry i’d Have.

 

[egbert]

It’s certainly on the label recc for some glyphosate products, or it used to be anyway.
Only ever tried it once, to clear a field that was mostly couch. Not particularly effective and i’ve Not done it since, but any possible residue in the crop wouldn’t be a worry i’d Have.

I don't know much of anything about such things.....
but using any agrochemical when it is so evidently going to enter the foodchain - IE spraying herbicide knowing very well it's going to be fed to livestock- is a PR disaster waiting to happen.

 

[Still Farming]

I don't know much of anything about such things.....
but using any agrochemical when it is so evidently going to enter the foodchain - IE spraying herbicide knowing very well it's going to be fed to livestock- is a PR disaster waiting to happen.

More worrying ,applied days before harvest on milling Wheat for your bread that has gone on for generations allegedly?

 

[egbert]

More worrying ,applied days before harvest on milling Wheat for your bread that has gone on for generations allegedly?

that is indeed more of a red flag, although i like my cows a lot more than I like people.

(and no, I'm not in the anti-roundup camp....)

 

[Still Farming]

that is indeed more of a red flag, although i like my cows a lot more than I like people.

(and no, I'm not in the anti-roundup camp....)

Yes.
Good tool for many they say.

 

[egbert]

Yes.
Good tool for many they say.

don't doubt it...use it m'self for various applications.