Spencer
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Op wasnt taking mid summer was he, take a photo today for relevance?shocking mess isn’t it ! - but i guess if i cut hedges or sold inputs for a living i would not be keen on it either
Op wasnt taking mid summer was he, take a photo today for relevance?shocking mess isn’t it ! - but i guess if i cut hedges or sold inputs for a living i would not be keen on it either
Yes I completely agree with you, hopefully they will pay me to plough it all up again too!! I also see other farms who have done nothing, no SFI, no Stewardship etc etc and are still just trying to carry on. I would wager some of these will not be in business within a few years time. No money for investment, only just enough to keep the business going with a dwindling SFP, once that stops, they'll stop.The government don’t want grass flowers bird seed etc, what they do want is votes & power & they have convinced themselves that for now there are more votes to be had in appearing to be green rather than feeding our exploding population, when food becomes scarce & more expensive they will cynically go in exactly the opposite direction.
It was reported in the papers last week that a couple in the East Midlands had received a letter from their council, which stated that their house was going to bewhat’s proposed in Wales is near very different to sfi and css options - it’s disgusting frankly no wonder there are protests
it’s basically nationalisation of a large % of farmland
Op wasnt taking mid summer was he, take a photo today for relevance?
There is no climate commitment in reality just a rearranging the deck chairs to pretend to be doing something, polluters now simply pretend to offset their pollution by using others existing nature, imports are somehow used to offset home production pollution free.government want to hit climate commitments they signed up to
if the don’t the cost to tax payer will make fines look cheap
anyone who actually took any notice of what got committed at various cop summits would have seen and could have predicted the clear direction of travel re ag support intention
there is massive opportunity here as long as we don’t let big retailers steal it from us like they are trying to by taking over all our representatives like nfu / ahdb / rt etc
We already have our version of SF1 that's been running for a few yearswhat’s proposed in Wales is near very different to sfi and css options - it’s disgusting frankly no wonder there are protests
it’s basically nationalisation of a large % of farmland
There is no climate commitment in reality just a rearranging the deck chairs to pretend to be doing something, polluters now simply pretend to offset their pollution by using others existing nature, imports are somehow used to offset home production pollution free.
Housing etc is going up everywhere to house people that at one time did not contribute to pollution in their own country yet some how this is never counted.
Be honest it’s in reality total bullish!t & we all know that it will make no difference to the planet what ever.
We already have our version of SF1 that's been running for a few years
It's called growing for the Environment, uptake was small.
Farms around here are small and tightly stocked ,living off a shoe string , a lot of them can't just give up their headlands to grow flowering weeds , and who would pay for all the temporary fencing to keep stock off it , there are thousands of Welsh lambs grazing here that will go back soon so slurry can go on for 4 cuts of silage and grazing , I'm certainly not fencing headlands off , on a 4 acre field I would have nothing left
So we import everything & cause zero pollution, what a load of crap. Cost big to whom, the Chinese etc.there are some serous commitments made that will cost big if not hit
How many of those 2 million acres you state are golf courses and pony paddocks?? Think you'd be surprised. Maybe if they stopped the "boats" population growth would possibly slow but then I'm aware I shouldn't say such things.Clive of course you are right great britian has all ways imported a lot of its food, going back hundreds of years, i think there was a repeal of the corn laws, re, end of the napoleonic wars, (1815), the very big difference between say before WW2 and now, is one the loss and continued loss of productive farm land, that could grow food, with lost over 2million acres and counting since the end of WW2, and two the UKs population growth, its currantly more than 12 million more and growing fast?
we already do and have done for many years
47% of our food is imported, we are not self sufficient and couldn’t possibly be so
food security is a bit of a flawed argument imo
when it comes to price uk producers just can’t compete with imports
I don't get the fact it's described as " for the public good" when In fact that pretty piece of greenery will only be seen by you and your staff and that's it also the public wouldn't even know it was there in the first place and won't see a jot of personal benefit to any of themsaid in an early post it’s obviously not so pretty today BUT it is achieving its aim a feeding a lot of birds / providing habitat for all sorts of wildlife
it will be pretty again through summer, some is annual so will be redrilled in spring and some 2 year mixes will be topped to return seed and they should great for another year
Every reason to fight back then. Why should we sit back and just take it. I think slow uptake on SFI actually did us some good as they had to come up with more incentives, trouble with our Industry is we sell ourselves out to easilythere are some serous commitments made that will cost big if not hit
I don't get the fact it's described as " for the public good" when In fact that pretty piece of greenery will only be seen by you and your staff and that's it also the public wouldn't even know it was there in the first place and won't see a jot of personal benefit to any of them
Seems pie in the sky fairytales to me ....
How many of your smaller livestock farms will benefit from itno one should “give up” anything
but if better paying alternatives are an OPTION then that’s good news and that’s what we have in England under sfi
Every reason to fight back then. Why should we sit back and just take it. I think slow uptake on SFI actually did us some good as they had to come up with more incentives, trouble with our Industry is we sell ourselves out to easily