How much is that per pack please?
Sam 3
- Thread starter onthehoof
- Start date
- Location
- Essex
Why would you want to treble your seed cost?
- Location
- Ceredigion
He's most probably using it a a break crop
- Location
- Ceredigion
Depends how many but approximately £52
SAM3
This one will go a bit longer for a few quid more
50 % Aston tCrusader
10% Meribel Italian Ryegrass
10% Lofa Festulolium
7% Timothy
3% Cocksfoot
3% Crimson ,
4% Balansa,
4% Red Clover
8.15% Vetch
0.30 Chicory
0.40 Plantain
0.05 Yarrow
0.05 Burnet
0.05 Sheeps Parsley
12 kilo per
- Location
- Essex
Stupid thing to do when legume fallow pays more and costs less
- Location
- Ceredigion
Can't coment as I was just quoting what he asked for, I did say it would produce a lot of feed in a short time , he then said he wanted to chop it In
Just watching the guidance on "improved grassland" change as the SFI scheme emerges, originally it said greater than 30% PRG now it says a high proportion of PRG and clovers-who knows what that means in % terms, probably more than 50% ???
I am sure you will be fine if you can show how the PP has been managed in the previous 15,years. It's as I said the very old PP that has not been managed well that will not meet the definition.
The key thing for any SAM 3 sward is managing it in a way that meets the aims of the action and maintain the herbs and legumes for 3 years without having to reseed again.
- Location
- Ceredigion
No more than 70% Ryegrass and Festulolium
You don't have to keep it down for 3 year either, it's not clear but they have not said you can't rip it out after a year as long as you meet the aims
Derrick the 70% is in the seed mix, I was quoting the requirements for a pp to be designated an improved pp prior to adding the SAM3 mix.
Yes it can be a rotated action but not many people will want to be renewing the area every year, mind you good for seed sales!!
- Location
- Ceredigion
Farmers do all sorts of things for all sorts of reasons, plenty put Italian Westerwolds Vetch and Red Clover in for a year 18 Months Those Short term herbal leys aren't much more and they will get payed for doing it
Homesy
Member
- Location
- North West Devon
how much ?
- Location
- somerset
just to show the stupidity of the new system.
SFI will not pay you for a herbal ley + lots of other options on 'hefer/shine' parcels of land, in case the deep rooting herbs, damage underground historical remains.
this is a big problem for us. Today, been told, its perfectly ok to plant herbal leys, in the affected fields, just deduct the 'shine' area from the claim...........
we did think we were going to have to create new land parcels, to avoid that, or, as we will do with some, apply through w/board.
nuts
SFI will not pay you for a herbal ley + lots of other options on 'hefer/shine' parcels of land, in case the deep rooting herbs, damage underground historical remains.
this is a big problem for us. Today, been told, its perfectly ok to plant herbal leys, in the affected fields, just deduct the 'shine' area from the claim...........
we did think we were going to have to create new land parcels, to avoid that, or, as we will do with some, apply through w/board.
nuts
Hindsight
Member
- Location
- Lincolnshire
just to show the stupidity of the new system.
SFI will not pay you for a herbal ley + lots of other options on 'hefer/shine' parcels of land, in case the deep rooting herbs, damage underground historical remains.
this is a big problem for us. Today, been told, its perfectly ok to plant herbal leys, in the affected fields, just deduct the 'shine' area from the claim...........
we did think we were going to have to create new land parcels, to avoid that, or, as we will do with some, apply through w/board.
nuts
Hi Som. May I ask who told you that could just deduct the SHIN area. As in was it in a RPA / DEFRA official capacity or an adviser and if the latter on what authority. Thank you.
@som farmer who told you that? I was told the opposite
- Location
- somerset
fwag, but check for yourself, seems to be a lot of conflicting information about.
Hindsight
Member
- Location
- Lincolnshire
Thank you. The sensible approach and how I tackled the issue with the first applications I assisted with, only to be told that was wrong by the RPA helpline. Will have to go back to RPA with an email for determination. Same with all schemes when they start out. Cheers.
- Location
- somerset
good luck.
must admit l am pleased that son is wading through it all, not sure l have the patience now !