SCIMITAR - Terrific silage production for 2 years

Discussion in 'General For Sale' started by Great In Grass, Jan 12, 2018.

  1. Great In Grass

    Location:
    Cornwall.
    20% Alamo Italian Ryegrass (Diploid)
    30% Fox Italian Ryegrass (Diploid)
    30% Danergo Italian Ryegrass (Tetraploid)
    20% Itarzi (Tetraploid)
    100%

    Packed in 20kg bags

    Seed rate: 13kg - 15kg/acre

    Cost:
    40 - 700kg: £2.65/kilo
    700kg+ £2.55/kilo

    Delivered price - Mainland UK only

    Contains a blend of four top RGCL listed Italian Ryegrass varieties.
    Excellent establishment for rapid utilisation

    Prices are valid for all deliveries up to 30th June 2018.
    Prices subject to revision at any time.
    PRODUCT QUOTED IS STRICTLY SUBJECT TO AVAILABILITY

    May also be found in the Farm Market Place: https://www.marketplace.farm/inputs/seed/scimitar-terrific-silage-production-for-2-years/
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  2. Headless chicken

    Location:
    West Wales
    Will do Some maths and give you a ring ;)
     
  3. Great In Grass

    Location:
    Cornwall.
    Yeah, do that, there's plenty! :)
     
  4. powerontheland

    Location:
    Hockley Essex
    Any good for Haylage?
     
  5. Great In Grass

    Location:
    Cornwall.
    Yes, it has very good digestibility and with it's high sugar content gives excellent fermentation.
     
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  6. Great In Grass

    Location:
    Cornwall.
    I forgot to say, seed need not be delivered until closer to the time it's required. It will be mixed to order so 10 (work) days notice would be appreciated.

    All orders will be confirmed prior to mixing and may be cancelled at that point.(y)
     
  7. yew2

    yew2 Member

    Price's heading upwards? Still quoted at £1.75/kg at Mole Valley.
     
  8. Great In Grass

    Location:
    Cornwall.
    Seems that way, these are the first prices I've had for 2018.

    I didn't know MVF had a similar mixture but you do find at this time of year stock carry over & also with retailers waiting on new season prices web prices not being updated.

    Organic growers are in for a shock I feel.
     
  9. powerontheland

    Location:
    Hockley Essex
    Is this still available? Suitable for spring sowing??
     
  10. Great In Grass

    Location:
    Cornwall.
    Yes, plenty available and ideal for spring sowing. Taking Westerwolds separately and adding to the mix at 3kg/acre is proving very popular this year to give extra yield.

    PM if you need further details.
     
  11. DrDunc

    DrDunc Member

    Location:
    Dunsyre
    @Great In Grass what would yield of scimitar at 14kg/ acre plus 3kg of westerwolds be like, compared to a single year crop such as barspectra II westerwold seed alone?

    Grass would've been very tight here with taking out old greas by out wintering cattle to save straw, but coupled to the already late spring, I'm beginning to panic so looking for the highest yielding grass crop for haylage. I'm up above 1000ft in the Scottish Pentland.
     
  12. Great In Grass

    Location:
    Cornwall.
    Yield-wise there wouldn't be too much in it but the diploid content will offer a higher density crop because of the better tillering, therefore, making it more competitive to weeds. Diploids also tend to cope with wetter conditions better and cope with lower fertility.

    Tetraploids establish quickly and are very palatable and high quality which makes for great grazing or silage.

    With the addition of Westerwolds grazing would be possible within 6-8 weeks and cutting 10-12 weeks leading to a rapid regrowth or subsequent cuts. Annual yield as a straight would be around 16T DM/hectare so it's inclusion will add to the overall yield.
     
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  13. DrDunc

    DrDunc Member

    Location:
    Dunsyre
    Thank you

    Presumably straight westerwolds would only be a single year crop up here in the cold too, whereas the Italian mix would stand a bit of mild winter grazing and still make silage in year two.

    Does the soil temperature need to be around 10°C before sowing, or can it be colder as there's no clover in the mix?

    Apologises for all the questions, just trying to figure out different options. Spring doesn't look like appearing until June around here.
     
  14. Great In Grass

    Location:
    Cornwall.
    The newer varieties of Westerwolds are resistant to colder temps than they were a few years ago it's possible a good proportion would come through the winter. The IRG will indeed stand some winter grazing and will provide a little growth if temperatures reach 5dC.

    Sow once the soil temp has attained 8dC and has been there for 3-4 days and temperature is on the rise.
     
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