Scottish rent reviews

[jamesy]

There are farmers who have paid over £200/acre for summer grazing near me, £77 seems pretty reasonable. If they don't like it go and buy their own place, the landlord needs a return on his assets too.

Completely nuts though in my simple opinion..... Do you think they want more?!

 

[DRC]

Don't think it's right that a man and his business are being talked about on an Internet forum .
How would some of you like it, if your name and how much rent your supposedly paying was being gossiped over. It's one thing talking rents in general, but not naming fellow farmers.

 

[Fergieman]

Its here for all to see

http://www.thescottishfarmer.co.uk/news/rent-row-rages.24528961

Was £27,500 Estate wanted £36,000 refused, tenant offered £30,000 refused, went to court and judge settled at just under £48,000.

Not a good outcome for tenants on that estate and many others.

 

[KennyO]

Don't think it's right that a man and his business are being talked about on an Internet forum .
How would some of you like it, if your name and how much rent your supposedly paying was being gossiped over. It's one thing talking rents in general, but not naming fellow farmers.

Been in all the local papers up here and talk of 'The Highland' so no secret.

 

[DRC]

Been in all the local papers up here and talk of 'The Highland' so no secret.

I can see that now.
Can't understand people washing their dirty linen in public .

 

[Frodo]

Don't think it's right that a man and his business are being talked about on an Internet forum .
How would some of you like it, if your name and how much rent your supposedly paying was being gossiped over. It's one thing talking rents in general, but not naming fellow farmers.

That's one of the ideas of the court system that each case is published and we can learn from the precedent set and don't need to repeat the exercise. If you don't want it to be published settle out of court.

There is a suggestion that there should be a public register of rents. I think it would be a useful resourse for both landlords and tenants.

 

[sheepwise]

There are farmers who have paid over £200/acre for summer grazing near me, £77 seems pretty reasonable. If they don't like it go and buy their own place, the landlord needs a return on his assets too.

Yes but no need for any investment/upkeep costs by tenant on seasonal lets.If landlords want the best short term returns then seasonal lets are the way to go ,but lo behold the state of their property in a very few years.I see it around here with my own eyes where the capital value of some farms have fallen drastically due to a greedy landlord and lack of a good long-term tenant.Roll on Scottish land reform where long term tenancies become available again to the mutual benefit of landlord and tenant.

 

[DrDunc]

That's one of the ideas of the court system that each case is published and we can learn from the precedent set and don't need to repeat the exercise. If you don't want it to be published settle out of court.

There is a suggestion that there should be a public register of rents. I think it would be a useful resourse for both landlords and tenants.

A register of rents would provide tenants with access to direct comparables, of both land and tenancy type.

The landowners already have this information through the land agents they use.

 

[fitlike min]

A register of rents would provide tenants with access to direct comparables, of both land and tenancy type.

The landowners already have this information through the land agents they use.

Comparables can be given to members of the STFA.

The problem is with the system which is loaded against the tenant. The Land Court and it's ridiculous cost to obtain a judgement, and the fact that only one comparable can be used, shows that reform is urgently required.

 

[Hilly]

There are farmers who have paid over £200/acre for summer grazing near me, £77 seems pretty reasonable. If they don't like it go and buy their own place, the landlord needs a return on his assets too.

A little extra grass on grass park basis if different ball game to the whole farm though, I bet them that paying that are either on peper corn rent or owner occupiers spreading the cost over the whole place, bad business I would say but still do able.

 

[Cowcalf]

Looks like estate were being fair with increase to 36K which was refused so tenant gambled and lost.
36K for that farm was very reasonable

 

[exmoor dave]

out of interest, why did it go to court rather than arbitration?

or is court the equivalent of arbitration north of the border?

 

[bigw]

Completely nuts though in my simple opinion..... Do you think they want more?!

Your right its mental! Surely basic economics have to come into it at some point!!

 

[cudota]

There are farmers who have paid over £200/acre for summer grazing near me, £77 seems pretty reasonable. If they don't like it go and buy their own place, the landlord needs a return on his assets too.

yes but you can not give more than is going to make a profit everybody looses in the end .The rent is supposed to be set on a percentage of the profit and land agents came up with it will have to be more because the house is worth xxxxx it was'nt till the great british public wanted to live in the countryside

 

[grumpy]

as ever in this country every one hates toffs,lairds,landlords choose what ever name you like,but the fact is most of them are asset rich and cash poor.most estates in scotland are stony broke and the tenant farmers are paying a pittance in rent and making a good living.

 

[Hilly]

Its interesting that a lot of you have mentioned the house, it wasn't that long ago farmers didn't take houses into consideration !! many a farm will have been taken or bought and the house never even looked at just goes to show how things move and change. And I suspect there will be more than one house on that farm but I could well be wrong.

 

[Hilly]

as ever in this country every one hates toffs,lairds,landlords choose what ever name you like,but the fact is most of them are asset rich and cash poor.most estates in scotland are stony broke and the tenant farmers are paying a pittance in rent and making a good living.

We disagree here. yer talking tosh again.

 

[cudota]

as ever in this country every one hates toffs,lairds,landlords choose what ever name you like,but the fact is most of them are asset rich and cash poor.most estates in scotland are stony broke and the tenant farmers are paying a pittance in rent and making a good living.

no your wrong there i have absolutely no probs with my landlords .....the agents now thats a different matter

 

[Baling Hay]

Its interesting that a lot of you have mentioned the house, it wasn't that long ago farmers didn't take houses into consideration !! many a farm will have been taken or bought and the house never even looked at just goes to show how things move and change. And I suspect there will be more than one house on that farm but I could well be wrong.

Yeah and people forget that the current prices of UK houses are unsustainably high which are only being supported by real negative interest rates and "help to buy" schemes because the british public over-leveraged themselves so much during the speculative boom 7 years ago!

 

[grumpy]

We disagree here. yer talking tosh again.

nah you dudes are talking commie shyte,£40 an acre are you having a laugh?then £77 an acre are you having a laugh?we are paying £80 an acre for rough hill ground no sheds no house feck all but thistles.