SFI....FUBAR

[spin cycle]

starting a new thread so i can have a 'rant'

sfi.....Fekked Up Beyond All Recognition

what happens now?,,,,are we?
1/supposed to put 25% of land into conservation then take that money and subsidise food ergo putting it mr tesco's pocket?
2/ have 'bird cover entitlements' been created so farmers not in the scheme can hire/sell them to farmers who wish to grow more?
3/ what about the 'betrayal' of us cs holders who've been unable to apply?
4/if they honour historical claims (which they should)....is that not unfair on those yet to apply?
5/is food production now a 'public good' by default?....so why isn't that being subsidised?

thats just off the top of my head......whole thing is now complete farce

and breath

 

[copse]

How about put two fingers up to them and get stuck in to actually farming!

 

[spin cycle]

How about put two fingers up to them and get stuck in to actually farming!

you can work for the supermarkets if you want to

 

[copse]

you can work for the supermarkets if you want to

I would sooner do that than feck around with these half arsed schemes.

 

[copse]

If the day comes when I have to bugger around feeding birds to make a living I’m out.

 

[spin cycle]

If the day comes when I have to bugger around feeding birds to make a living I’m out.

but you'll happily produce food for nowt?

can i buy your 'bird cover entitlements'?

 

[copse]

but you'll happily produce food for nowt?

What’s wrong with current sheep and cattle prices? Admittedly arable isn’t great at the moment but not a disaster.

 

[spin cycle]

What’s wrong with current sheep and cattle prices? Admittedly arable isn’t great at the moment but not a disaster.

nothing...long may it last .....but if prices drop what then?.....it's personal choice but i'd rather feed birds than put a single penny in mr tesco's pocket

thats the point really....sfi should compete with food production.....farmers can then choose and prices should remain reasonable

this is interference....if food is a 'public good' then subsidise it

 

[copse]

nothing...long may it last .....but if prices drop what then?.....it's personal choice but i'd rather feed birds than put a single penny in mr tesco's pocket

thats the point really....sfi should compete with food production.....farmers can then choose and prices should remain reasonable

this is interference....if food is a 'public good' then subsidise it

If was only going to end up a right balls up and we shouldn’t have expected anything else.

 

[spin cycle]

If was only going to end up a right balls up and we shouldn’t have expected anything else.

but the scale of it is mind numbing ......and this is just the start ,i think, as the whole thing unravels

 

[devonbeef]

What’s wrong with current sheep and cattle prices? Admittedly arable isn’t great at the moment but not a disaster.

are you not finding these ongoing price rises of everything is well and truly takes the shine of this years better prices, i am , everything just keeps on going up, council tax , insurances, parts etc, personalty i think we are no better than a year ago really when you factor in buying in replacements ( stock) and actually keeping on top of maintaining the farm and equipment to run it. we need these prices and higher as everything keeps rising in price, otherwise we are just left further behind from the rest of the population

 

[Steevo]

thats the point really....sfi should compete with food production.....farmers can then choose and prices should remain reasonable

this is interference....if food is a 'public good' then subsidise it

Summed up well I think.

 

[copse]

are you not finding these ongoing price rises of everything is well and truly takes the shine of this years better prices, i am , everything just keeps on going up, council tax , insurances, parts etc, personalty i think we are no better than a year ago really when you factor in buying in replacements ( stock) and actually keeping on top of maintaining the farm and equipment to run it. we need these prices and higher as everything keeps rising in price, otherwise we are just left further behind from the rest of the population

I know what you mean about price rises but I can’t see how cutting production and putting half of the farm in environmental schemes would benefit me . I will still have the same insurance costs and other costs unless I sold machinery and it would be harder to keep machinery up to date so would be left with a yard full of scrap after a few years and no way of getting out of it.

 

[livestock 1]

This sfi is going to leave a load of sfi addicts. Inflation will carry on sfi rates will stay stagnant and there will be a load of farmers who will want to be back in in 6/10 years time who won’t be able to get back in. That’s their plan then the land will be used for offset or some other environmental shyte.

 

[flinty123]

but you'll happily produce food for nowt?

can i buy your 'bird cover entitlements'?

For nowt? Have you seen sheep prices?

 

[spin cycle]

For nowt? Have you seen sheep prices?

for now....and ,as i said, 'long may it last'........BUT a few boatloads of kiwi and who knows

 

[Bury the Trash]

How about put two fingers up to them and get stuck in to actually farming!

That's what we are doing , with little arable area would mean not much money anyway .
Also more importantly I have keen young people here around me that want to dothings not watch butterflies

 

[Bury the Trash]

are you not finding these ongoing price rises of everything is well and truly takes the shine of this years better prices, i am , everything just keeps on going up, council tax , insurances, parts etc, personalty i think we are no better than a year ago really when you factor in buying in replacements ( stock) and actually keeping on top of maintaining the farm and equipment to run it. we need these prices and higher as everything keeps rising in price, otherwise we are just left further behind from the rest of the population

Welcome aboard, it's always been like that as long as I can remember for us.
Infact on top Try paying a mortgage and rent as well
It helps to be a proper die hard and enjoy an (almost) impossible challenge. Lol.
Don't expect new tractors kit when wanted or cars ,vehicles or foreign holidays either.
Mrs will have to make do with one kitchen per lifetime as well lol again.so you better be sure she can cope / be happy with that from the start .

 

[spin cycle]

feck knows how the computer system is going to cope.....as far as i know they were still working on getting cs peeps able to apply

 

[Bury the Trash]

feck knows how the computer system is going to cope.....as far as i know they were still working on getting cs peeps able to apply

What does fubar mean spin? Is it like a sausage.

When see sfi written imistake if for scfi lol