Sheet your load.......

[tractorsandcows]

I'll not comment on the rights and wrongs of the load, but it's interesting that driver who is quite likely to be on a modest wage and is at the coal face is subject to the full force of the law at all times, yet the higher up the food chain you go, the less likely you get prosecuted and if you do, it's less severe relative to your income and responsibility

Welcome to the good old policing system. Catch the low hanging fruit and then give interviews or put up posts about the great job you are doing

 

[tractorsandcows]

One to get discussion going.
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Photo taken by front seat passenger., obviously.

Wasn't loaded with a graipe anyway

 

[CPF]

Your driving on the wrong side of the road

Or just like any other car follower, trying to overtake on a bend.

 

[Pennine Ploughing]

I'll not comment on the rights and wrongs of the load, but it's interesting that driver who is quite likely to be on a modest wage and is at the coal face is subject to the full force of the law at all times, yet the higher up the food chain you go, the less likely you get prosecuted and if you do, it's less severe relative to your income and responsibility

Nah, it a case the higher up the tree you are the better lawer for defence you have

 

[grainboy]

Work enough on "what if " and you will become so paralysed by fear you will do nothing
People like you suffer from an over developed perception of hazard an an under developed ability to assess risk

you really don’t know me,
As now past retirement age, believe me I know how to assess risk,
That load, and a lot more you see on the highway, is potentially dangerous,

 

[kiwi pom]

One to get discussion going.
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Poor photo taken by front seat passenger., obviously.

Might as well just put a sign on the back saying “I’m a complete idiot please pull me up”.

 

[Renaultman]

I'll not comment on the rights and wrongs of the load, but it's interesting that driver who is quite likely to be on a modest wage and is at the coal face is subject to the full force of the law at all times, yet the higher up the food chain you go, the less likely you get prosecuted and if you do, it's less severe relative to your income and responsibility

Totally agree, I can't even begin to count the number of times I've been poorly loaded, bulk, plant, steel everything really, where I've tried to get loaders to load it correctly to no avail

 

[Gav]

I’m surprised this hasn’t been picked up on yet in here

 

[JP1]

One to get discussion going.
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Poor photo taken by front seat passenger., obviously.

Yes I gather most Gators are left hand drive only

 

[Jsmith2211]

I’m surprised this hasn’t been picked up on yet in here

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Is the tilly pass run by politicians? Seems like a lot of words to say SFA...

 

[carbonfibre farmer]

@agricontract posted I thought, a very pertinent comment, on one of the many reposts of the tractor towing plant gear. Silly tilly had commented as is there way
Hope olly doesn't mind me copying what he said.

They are going all out to alienate us and berate, while not actually quoting the relevant laws. While all the while trying to come in-between farmers and the law/police/DVSA and get a good "draw" out of it/us

 

[Hay Maker]

Tilley much the same as RT. It is much better & cheaper to use HGV fitters who really understand trailers (most AG trailers now run on commercial running gear) and use a lorry rolling road to properly test the brakes. A lot of HGV garages now have rolling roads, much better than Tilley which involves far to much dismantling which may even put faults in or need further adjustment when all the parts have bedded in again which is not very good in the middle of harvest.

 

[Hay Maker]

An early ford safety cab, eg ĵ reg, didn't have brake lights unless it was deluxe cab. So if it was still in use today, as some must be, is it an offence?

No it would not be, as it could only be an offence if the vehicle was fitted with brake light that did not work, were dirty or damages or perhaps were fitted in the wrong place. If not fitted by the manufacture there is no problem.

 

[betweenthelines]

I'll not comment on the rights and wrongs of the load, but it's interesting that driver who is quite likely to be on a modest wage and is at the coal face is subject to the full force of the law at all times, yet the higher up the food chain you go, the less likely you get prosecuted and if you do, it's less severe relative to your income and responsibility

Driver has the right to refuse if he thinks the load is unsafe or illegal.

Also it's unreasonable to expect someone who may be "Manager" for 50+ vehicles to check each one for load security etc.

 

[kiwi pom]

@agricontract posted I thought, a very pertinent comment, on one of the many reposts of the tractor towing plant gear. Silly tilly had commented as is there way
Hope olly doesn't mind me copying what he said.
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They are going all out to alienate us and berate, while not actually quoting the relevant laws. While all the while trying to come in-between farmers and the law/police/DVSA and get a good "draw" out of it/us

The folks at Tilley pass or whatever it's called are perhaps not helping things, but I do find it interesting that these threads always try and veer away from farmers being stupid to trying to attack some organisation or other.
Let's get the cowboys off the road first, they are the ones damaging farmers reputations and adding to the rules and hoops everyone has to put up with.

 

[betweenthelines]

"What if" mentally means that if you end up in Court because you have been blamed for a serious injury accident, you can swear on oath that you took all reasonable precautions to prevent the accident.

 

[kiwi pom]

Driver has the right to refuse if he thinks the load is unsafe or illegal.

Also it's unreasonable to expect someone who may be "Manager" for 50+ vehicles to check each one for load security etc.

That's very true, the actual reality in a lot of cases though is the driver is treated like shite and shown the door if they put their foot down, while management just find someone else to blame.
The manager should not be checking every load, but they should be ensuring the drivers are up to standard with current rules, training etc and remind shippers/receivers of their responsibilities and actually back their drivers.

 

[Lincsman]

The folks at Tilley pass or whatever it's called are perhaps not helping things, but I do find it interesting that these threads always try and veer away from farmers being stupid to trying to attack some organisation or other.
Let's get the cowboys off the road first, they are the ones damaging farmers reputations and adding to the rules and hoops everyone has to put up with.

How?

 

[kiwi pom]

How?

How are the cowboys making things worse, Is that a serious question?

Because they have accidents, cause harm, generate complaints and bring negative attention to the industry. The powers that be then decide more needs to be done, so more new rules and stricter enforcement makes life harder and more expensive for those who were doing things right in the first place.

If the Plant hire company upthread is running bent hauling plant with a tractor on red and cutting corners they are benefitting because they can undercut those doing things correctly.

If someone is too thick to sheet a heaped load and they cause an accident, the police who attend will from that point forward keep a closer eye out for more uncovered trailers.

Do you really want me to go on, it's all so bloody obvious.

 

[grainboy]

Don’t really see why hire companies are using tractors to haul, when they only charge £86 each way to move with HGV low loader, 18m Telehandler,