Should the NFU hold a OMOV referendum on Red Tractor?

[fudge]

Can we start a poll to guess when Clive is going to make some sort of challenge or start an alternative to the NFU? Its fairly obvious all these threads are just trying to gauge who would back him in such a bid.

Oh I see what you mean. The Donald Trump of UK farming. Stranger things have happened. Drain that swamp!

 

[Tamar]

Can we start a poll to guess when Clive is going to make some sort of challenge or start an alternative to the NFU? Its fairly obvious all these threads are just trying to gauge who would back him in such a bid.

Could I ask you what you do in NZ ? Don't they have a forum you can join ?

 

[An Gof]

Oh you tease @Clive you know full well that that cannot happen

 

[Clive]

Can we start a poll to guess when Clive is going to make some sort of challenge or start an alternative to the NFU? Its fairly obvious all these threads are just trying to gauge who would back him in such a bid.

no thanks, i have no such ambition

and i could not afford the pay cut

 

[Clive]

Oh I see what you mean. The Donald Trump of UK farming. Stranger things have happened. Drain that swamp!

maybe a wall around Stoneligh would be a start

 

[fudge]

maybe a wall around Stoneligh would be a start

You own this platform so there’s no danger of being silenced if you become deranged.

 

[kiwi pom]

Could I ask you what you do in NZ ? Don't they have a forum you can join ?

Of course you can ask.


No. I'm not a farmer. Just trying to add a little balance to some of the arguments.
It is a farmING forum not a farmERS forum.

I'm sure Clive can make my account disappear if you would like.

 

[Steevo]

I can see sense in NFU having an online polling system that members can log in each month and vote on a variety of issues. Even keeping many of the same issues present each month to see if/opinions in the industry shift. I cannot recall any occasion that the have NFU asked me directly for my views on how they should represent me on certain subjects.

 

[JP1]

Of course you can ask.


No. I'm not a farmer. Just trying to add a little balance to some of the arguments.
It is a farmING forum not a farmERS forum.

I'm sure Clive can make my account disappear if you would like.

No I would not like

 

[turbo]

when they sit in front of policy makers they claim to represent uk farmers

anyway- the question a simple one - should their members be given a vote on this subject ?

And who do you claim to represent when you have cosy little chats with those in power?

 

[snarling bee]

So lets play this out.
OMOV and members want NFU to have nothing to do with RT. Fair enough.
RT board only then have to bribe Blenkiron and his mates with a salary rise and, rather than just being outvoted by the 'consumers', UK Ag doesn't even have a say in RT decisions.

 

[snarling bee]

I can see sense in NFU having an online polling system that members can log in each month and vote on a variety of issues. Even keeping many of the same issues present each month to see if/opinions in the industry shift. I cannot recall any occasion that the have NFU asked me directly for my views on how they should represent me on certain subjects.

Have you made the effort to tell the NFU your views on certain subjects?

 

[Clive]

So lets play this out.
OMOV and members want NFU to have nothing to do with RT. Fair enough.
RT board only then have to bribe Blenkiron and his mates with a salary rise and, rather than just being outvoted by the 'consumers', UK Ag doesn't even have a say in RT decisions.

errrr no .. .

NFU instructs all members to leave RT unless there is a premium being received they wish to remain for

It drops its share holdings and any support for the “brand”

They then meet with merchants and mills and say all cereals will be supplied on same basis as imports - ie no FARM level assurance

job done - the nfu have the clout to fix this by Friday if minded to

if the NFU actually stood up and represented their FARMER members I suspect Red Tractor would be out of business within weeks

anyway - right or wrong surely the right thing to do is what their members want


i would like to see a similar referendum on gene editing - these are fundamental issues that change the face of ag for ever, they are worthy of simple democratic vote

 

[Clive]

Have you made the effort to tell the NFU your views on certain subjects?

i certainly did before i left , and i think the majority of members views on RT is clear right now ........ yet they are clearly still going to support Red Tractor

thats a dictatorship, no one should support that

 

[principal skinner]

So lets play this out.
OMOV and members want NFU to have nothing to do with RT. Fair enough.
RT board only then have to bribe Blenkiron and his mates with a salary rise and, rather than just being outvoted by the 'consumers', UK Ag doesn't even have a say in RT decisions.

Do we now???

 

[DRC]

It’s up to them.

In that case maybe only NFU members should have to be red tractor assured !
They’ve foisted this on all of us,members or not .

 

[DRC]

Of course you can ask.


No. I'm not a farmer. Just trying to add a little balance to some of the arguments.
It is a farmING forum not a farmERS forum.

I'm sure Clive can make my account disappear if you would like.

I’m beginning to think you’re being paid as a consultant for red tractor

 

[snarling bee]

Do we now???

The NFU and industry representatives have a seat at the table, potentially voice their opinion, and then get out voted I suspect.
Whether their opinion is the same as the majority of the farming industry I can't say, and they don't even know what the majority of farmers want, probably 50,000 different things.

As I have pointed out on another thread, as an elected NFU representative, I am left to guess what my farmer members want. I have had NO representations made to me. None. Not one.
Members then threaten to leave.
Why have I not had dozens members on the phone or email giving me their opinion? I don't get it.

 

[Derrick Hughes]

The NFU and industry representatives have a seat at the table, potentially voice their opinion, and then get out voted I suspect.
Whether their opinion is the same as the majority of the farming industry I can't say, and they don't even know what the majority of farmers want, probably 50,000 different things.

As I have pointed out on another thread, as an elected NFU representative, I am left to guess what my farmer members want. I have had NO representations made to me. None. Not one.
Members then threaten to leave.
Why have I not had dozens members on the phone or email giving me their opinion? I don't get it.

Farmers work all hours . Come in freezing cold and wet. Last thing they want to do is start emailing and having to think about their problems . Its a shame those who represent them don't have a clue what their problems are

 

[theboytheboy]

I can see sense in NFU having an online polling system that members can log in each month and vote on a variety of issues. Even keeping many of the same issues present each month to see if/opinions in the industry shift.

This might be worth suggesting to your superiors....

It seems a sensible idea to guage quickly how member's feel towards certain issues