Silage / Straw / Hay Price Tracker

[puntabrava]

Thankfully days are getting longer

Yes, more time to bed up .

 

[Derrick Hughes]

I have some 4ft rounds of barley straw which a nearby dairy farmer would like to buy for calf and young stock bedding. It’s good quality, barn stored and never got rained on.

Would £20 a bale be a fair delivered price? Customer is 4 miles away. Would be selling him c.30 bales.

In Hampshire

yes very fair as things are .

 

[glasshouse]

It

It was black but nothing wrong with it.

was black?
Hardly representative of the trade

 

[Derrick Hughes]

lot of farms prefer dry black

 

[Sid]

lot of farms prefer dry black

Ladies saying goes once you'v tried black you never go back.
Guth said there is nothing wrong with a bit of black

 

[Devil's advocate]

Well it feels like it has rained for 7 months thou you are correct end of Oct/ start of Nov was drier.

Hate to say it but you well overpaid at £130t even on last months trade, you would have got it for less delivered in last months sale than what you paid.

If it is a late spring.

I hope GUTH is going to thank all those arable farmers, who have risked not selling or a low price. To ensure that livestock farmers with limted storage space are still able to buy qualty straw. I assume that he will also agree that anyone taking a risk, is entitled to a small premium. This is of course not greed but business.

I sell 12 months of the year & hope for a fair average.

 

[gone up the hill]

If it is a late spring.

I hope GUTH is going to thank all those arable farmers, who have risked not selling or a low price. To ensure that livestock farmers with limted storage space are still able to buy qualty straw. I assume that he will also agree that anyone taking a risk, is entitled to a small premium. This is of course not greed but business.

I sell 12 months of the year & hope for a fair average.

A small premium is £10/15t between off field/ winter prices, not £50t.........

Dealers have totally over hyped the straw price for their own ends, sadly its both farmers selling straw and farmers that buy straw that end up paying the price at both ends, ie the seller who will end up with no buyers for his straw in the spring or next winter and the sellers being hood winked into over paying for straw they need to buy, no winners but the dealers.

 

[gone up the hill]

It

was black?
Hardly representative of the trade

Dry blackish straw, nothing wrong with it and actually better for soaking up moisture than shiny straw, if straw was as short as most dealers claim then there would have been a trade for it yesterday, truth of the matter is that yesterdays straw trade was one of the most lacklustre I have seen in a long time for straw at a winter forage sale.

 

[Devil's advocate]

A small premium is £10/15t between off field/ winter prices, not £50t.........

Dealers have totally over hyped the straw price for their own ends, sadly its both farmers selling straw and farmers that buy straw that end up paying the price at both ends, ie the seller who will end up with no buyers for his straw in the spring or next winter and the sellers being hood winked into over paying for straw they need to buy, no winners but the dealers.

Just let the market decide. I mostly sell direct & customers certainly are ethusastic to buy.

 

[gone up the hill]

Just let the market decide. I mostly sell direct & customers certainly are ethusastic to buy.

I agree, the trouble is the dealers haven't been doing that the last few months.

 

[Derrick Hughes]

I agree, the trouble is the dealers haven't been doing that the last few months.

most dealers just put a margin on .makes no odds to them what price it is only that they sell a lot more when its cheaper . i am selling a 1/4 of the straw i was due ti it being to dear which i have no control over

 

[Derrick Hughes]

most dealers just put a margin on .makes no odds to them what price it is only that they sell a lot more when its cheaper . i am selling a 1/4 of the straw i was due ti it being to dear which i have no control over

Its Northern Ireland Scotland and Cumbria through no fault of their own that have made straw the price it is

 

[gone up the hill]

most dealers just put a margin on .makes no odds to them what price it is only that they sell a lot more when its cheaper . i am selling a 1/4 of the straw i was due ti it being to dear which i have no control over

That is the problem, if straw is £130/150t they couldn't care less because they aren't the ones paying for it so it doesn't affect them if they keep talking up the trade.

Yes some areas are very short but that is the case nearly every year that some areas are short of straw, no reason at all to have driven the prices up like they have done so this year.

 

[Surgery]

Never a moan when it's been £40 quid off the field and £55 quid off farm throughout the winter , we all know that straw will come back if a decent dry harvest it's one of those years.

Putting into the grand scheme of things I would have thought that fert price , diesel price and machinery price , engineers charges would have far more effect in the short and long term than straw and after all most of the straw price will be going back into farmers pockets.

 

[Surgery]

That is the problem, if straw is £130/150t they couldn't care less because they aren't the ones paying for it so it doesn't affect them if they keep talking up the trade.

Yes some areas are very short but that is the case nearly every year that some areas are short of straw, no reason at all to have driven the prices up like they have done so this year.

The Irish are now buying in large quantities so don't expect it too come down any more , if you need it I would be buying some.

 

[gone up the hill]

The Irish are now buying in large quantities so don't expect it too come down any more , if you need it I would be buying some.

Trade was well down at the sale on Sat.

 

[Surgery]

Trade was well down at the sale on Sat.

Maybe down your end , get it bought.

 

[Derrick Hughes]

That is the problem, if straw is £130/150t they couldn't care less because they aren't the ones paying for it so it doesn't affect them if they keep talking up the trade.

Yes some areas are very short but that is the case nearly every year that some areas are short of straw, no reason at all to have driven the prices up like they have done so this year.

You expect them to do the haulage at a loss because straw is dearer for them to buy , blaming God would make more sense, he made the weather, they have no reason to talk it up do they , they lose out as farmers buy less

 

[puntabrava]

You expect them to do the haulage at a loss because straw is dearer for them to buy , blaming God would make more sense, he made the weather, they have no reason to talk it up do they , they lose out as farmers buy less

+ imagine a business running 4 lorry’s on straw, the money out in straw would be crippling.

 

[Derrick Hughes]

soon turnover a million and not much to show for it