Silage / Straw / Hay Price Tracker

[thorpe]

Might not be long

just had astraw cusomer ring me , told me what atrade he had had for his lambs sold out told him the price for his straw he said it is what it is bring me a load.

 

[fieldfarmer]

Never said that but do you think £80 for a 500 kg bale of straw is to much
It will kill the trade and may never come back - same thing happened with hay 2 years ago

Please understand I see this from all sides but if you've had to buy that bale on the spot price you've set that price by paying it, your margin has to go on like anyones has to if the customer isn't prepared to pay that price it will come down, your margin will remain the same though.

 

[som farmer]

unfortunately, as farmers, we are at the bottom of the heap, if the price, of anything ag drops, and the people that buy our product, see there margins drop, they lower the price to us, to maintain their margin. However unfair that is, it is not going to change, anytime soon. So the dealer, keeps his margin, fair enough. But, it is farmers, that sell straw, and presumably keeping it, in the barn, for the price to rise further. The market, at the moment, is created by a shortage of available straw, and farmers having to buy some, to go on with. I know that a lot of straw is trading, at a lot lower price, than being quoted. Come the new year, barns still full of straw, the winter moving into spring, i expect many farmers/dealers, are wishing, more had been sold, prior to the new year. I don't begrudge anyone their fair margin, greed, is a different kettle of fish, and if anyone, is left with straw, at the end of winter, I may be in the market, at £60 tonne, delivered, and i will try not to smirk.

 

[Devil's advocate]

unfortunately, as farmers, we are at the bottom of the heap, if the price, of anything ag drops, and the people that buy our product, see there margins drop, they lower the price to us, to maintain their margin. However unfair that is, it is not going to change, anytime soon. So the dealer, keeps his margin, fair enough. But, it is farmers, that sell straw, and presumably keeping it, in the barn, for the price to rise further. The market, at the moment, is created by a shortage of available straw, and farmers having to buy some, to go on with. I know that a lot of straw is trading, at a lot lower price, than being quoted. Come the new year, barns still full of straw, the winter moving into spring, i expect many farmers/dealers, are wishing, more had been sold, prior to the new year. I don't begrudge anyone their fair margin, greed, is a different kettle of fish, and if anyone, is left with straw, at the end of winter, I may be in the market, at £60 tonne, delivered, and i will try not to smirk.

But who has the straw, some (many) growers only harvested a third of usual straw yeilds.

Arable farmers really hurting at the moment, all yeilds hammered even if prices are good.

 

[livestock 1]

But who has the straw, some (many) growers only harvested a third of usual straw yeilds.

Arable farmers really hurting at the moment, all yeilds hammered even if prices are good.

It’s been said since well before harvest that the shortfall in yield revenues will be made up with straw or attempted to be

 

[Devil's advocate]

It’s been said since well before harvest that the shortfall in yield revenues will be made up with straw or attempted to be

Often said but total nonsense.

Straw has not tripled, most growers harvested 1/3 of normal yeild.

Grain yeilds a fraction of normal, milling wheat a good price but feed barley prices no where near make up the difference.

Some crops such as field beans not even harvested because crops so rubbish.

Oilseed rape & sugar beet yeilds slashed by upto 50% due to loss of insecticide products.

Wish my crops had produced the income that my ewes have.

 

[som farmer]

But who has the straw, some (many) growers only harvested a third of usual straw yeilds.

Arable farmers really hurting at the moment, all yeilds hammered even if prices are good.

as so rightly said, takes two, to make the trade, they have less straw, and grain, price goes up, we have to pay more, for straw and feed, the market will set the price. All sorts of farming, have their up's and downs, i have sold wheat, from £60/tonne to £200, bought and sold dairy cows from £300, to £1800, pig job, is the ultimate yoyo. We cannot dictate the yields, or prices, we receive, unfortunately.

 

[DRC]

It’s been said since well before harvest that the shortfall in yield revenues will be made up with straw or attempted to be

Do you mean shortfalls in grain yields will be made up with straw sales, because that isn’t true, as the straw yields were the worst I’ve ever known . Hardly one big bale/ acre in some fields

 

[som farmer]

Do you mean shortfalls in grain yields will be made up with straw sales, because that isn’t true, as the straw yields were the worst I’ve ever known . Hardly one big bale/ acre in some fields

but a lot of arable farmers, are saying it's worth x£ to chop, 1 bale an acre, it's either been sold well, standing, or not worth so much to chop.

 

[DRC]

but a lot of arable farmers, are saying it's worth x£ to chop, 1 bale an acre, it's either been sold well, standing, or not worth so much to chop.

Most of mine goes to a pig farm in a muck swap, so doesn’t make much difference. We were struggling to find enough to fill his shed this year.

 

[livestock 1]

Often said but total nonsense.

Straw has not tripled, most growers harvested 1/3 of normal yeild.

Grain yeilds a fraction of normal, milling wheat a good price but feed barley prices no where near make up the difference.

Some crops such as field beans not even harvested because crops so rubbish.

Oilseed rape & sugar beet yeilds slashed by upto 50% due to loss of insecticide products.

Wish my crops had produced the income that my ewes have.

That’s why I said’or attempted to’

 

[Devil's advocate]

Do you mean shortfalls in grain yields will be made up with straw sales, because that isn’t true, as the straw yields were the worst I’ve ever known . Hardly one big bale/ acre in some fields

Can't like that but feel your pain.

Felt like crying on the combine. Short thin crops of winter barley. Heads dropped off if I put the pick up reel down, tried to lift pick up reel the straw bent forwards & the heads dropped off.

This year has been so awful for so many, whatever price livestock farmers bid straw up to, will no way compensate. Some will be paying accumulated debts off for years.

It has been truely dreadful. Like a livestock farmer losing half his fodder crops & a quarter of his animals just dropped dead.

 

[livestock 1]

Do you mean shortfalls in grain yields will be made up with straw sales, because that isn’t true, as the straw yields were the worst I’ve ever known . Hardly one big bale/ acre in some fields

Ditto

 

[puntabrava]

unfortunately, as farmers, we are at the bottom of the heap, if the price, of anything ag drops, and the people that buy our product, see there margins drop, they lower the price to us, to maintain their margin. However unfair that is, it is not going to change, anytime soon. So the dealer, keeps his margin, fair enough. But, it is farmers, that sell straw, and presumably keeping it, in the barn, for the price to rise further. The market, at the moment, is created by a shortage of available straw, and farmers having to buy some, to go on with. I know that a lot of straw is trading, at a lot lower price, than being quoted. Come the new year, barns still full of straw, the winter moving into spring, i expect many farmers/dealers, are wishing, more had been sold, prior to the new year. I don't begrudge anyone their fair margin, greed, is a different kettle of fish, and if anyone, is left with straw, at the end of winter, I may be in the market, at £60 tonne, delivered, and i will try not to smirk.

You are way off the situation with that post I can assure you.
You appear to of latched onto this thread in the same way the Crediton bloke did for some reason. You are posting inaccuracies in the same manner also.

 

[Derrick Hughes]

as so rightly said, takes two, to make the trade, they have less straw, and grain, price goes up, we have to pay more, for straw and feed, the market will set the price. All sorts of farming, have their up's and downs, i have sold wheat, from £60/tonne to £200, bought and sold dairy cows from £300, to £1800, pig job, is the ultimate yoyo. We cannot dictate the yields, or prices, we receive, unfortunately.

Myself and a lot I know are having no problems finding and loading straw now .
But as for price variation
I have not seen any although some stuck it up £20/ ton after Stow sale
Why they chose to pay that you would need to ask them. They either cant find straw or are speculating on a price rise

 

[Scholsey]

Heard of dealers selling straw for £140/t but cant find any to buy, offering £110 ex farm and desperate to buy.

 

[som farmer]

Heard of dealers selling straw for £140/t but cant find any to buy, offering £110 ex farm and desperate to buy.

if having a job to find it, shows someone is hanging on, for a better/stupid price.

 

[fieldfarmer]

if having a job to find it, shows someone is hanging on, for a better/stupid price.

Or they're trying to buy it in the southwest where its short.

 

[Scholsey]

if having a job to find it, shows someone is hanging on, for a better/stupid price.

or it just isn’t about and it’s already been sold. Be interesting to know what the ‘normal’ UK straw production is and what has actually been baled this year.

 

[fieldfarmer]

Myself and a lot I know are having no problems finding and loading straw now .
But as for price variation
I have not seen any although some stuck it up £20/ ton after Stow sale
Why they chose to pay that you would need to ask them. They either cant find straw or are speculating on a price rise

If you're delivering in at £160 per ton as you said a few post back unless your margin is a bit on the strong side I bet you don't have a problem finding straw, are you paying the grower £130?