Slatted tank
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I have just done a 70 ft long , 8 ft deep and 16 ft wide slatted tank.
I am in Ireland , so prices in euro
Digging , back filling and 9 ton dumper hire, which I drove myself , €2800. We had to dig into side of a hill , so bottom of hole was actually 17 ft deep at one side. 2 loads of 3" stone €500 odd. Contractor labour , concrete , rebar , shuttering and supply of slats €15900. Steel , timbers bolts gutters roof sheeting €7000,( not made up, welded it myself. Concrete for 2 gable walls , passage etc €2000. Barriers, dividing gates etc, don't know as haven't got bill yet , but at a guess €2-3000 . Bit of casual labour €1000. Family labour and own time €00.
Vat of 13.5% reclaimable of all bar casual labour.
Shed is 63 ft , pens are 19 ft deep, passage way is covered , and it was put up as a leanto off an existing straw shed , so less side sheeting.
I am in Ireland , so prices in euro
Digging , back filling and 9 ton dumper hire, which I drove myself , €2800. We had to dig into side of a hill , so bottom of hole was actually 17 ft deep at one side. 2 loads of 3" stone €500 odd. Contractor labour , concrete , rebar , shuttering and supply of slats €15900. Steel , timbers bolts gutters roof sheeting €7000,( not made up, welded it myself. Concrete for 2 gable walls , passage etc €2000. Barriers, dividing gates etc, don't know as haven't got bill yet , but at a guess €2-3000 . Bit of casual labour €1000. Family labour and own time €00.
Vat of 13.5% reclaimable of all bar casual labour.
Shed is 63 ft , pens are 19 ft deep, passage way is covered , and it was put up as a leanto off an existing straw shed , so less side sheeting.
multi power
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You need to go to Ireland to get a good price for slats, Google Moore concrete
MickMoor
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Concrete and concrete products are cheaper over there. Unlike this side of the Irish Sea, they don't have a government that likes to penalise wealth creators.
multi power
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I don't think it is anything to do with the government, it's the same government in northern Ireland as here , concrete has always been a lot cheaper over there
MickMoor
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I was lead to believe, perhapswrongly, that the extractive industries which supply gravel, and limestone for cement, do not suffer the same environmental taxes as we do on the mainland.
The government here , are well able to strangle the little mans attempt at business.
There isn't any , aggregate tax , I think you call it, here , plus there would be a fair few pits/quarries around this part of the country. A lot had geared up systems trucks etc for the "boom" in the 00s. An awful lot of 05 06 07 8 wheelers and mixer bottles still around . A few 16 and 17 regd trucks of that type about , but none sold , except for export since 08.
I paid €62 + 13.5 vat for 30N20 concrete.
€65+ for 35N20 concrete. Conveyor €8 per M extra.
Contractor that poured the tank for me , would be doing 2 tanks at least , and sometimes 3 a week, buying the bulk of his concrete from 1 supplier , bar the job happened to be any distance away. I expect he would be getting it for €60 , maybe a shade less.
Slats. There must be a dozen slat manufacturers in the country , maybe more. Banagher Concrete would one of the largest, in Co Offaly, (midlands) . They export a lot of beams and bridges to the UK.
A 12'6" slat (roughly) costs €50 per foot + 400 extra per manhole opening.
So, a 70 ft tank uses €70 x 50 = €3500 PLUS 2 manholes @ €400 each is €800. Total then of €4300.
Fierce completion between concrete suppliers. Farm building contractors had a very busy year in 2016. Mainly smaller jobs like mine , but a few dairy lads building for expansion. Lots doubled cow numbers over past 2 years. They will be old men before they are any better off , having paid for building costs , and some crazy land rents.
There isn't any , aggregate tax , I think you call it, here , plus there would be a fair few pits/quarries around this part of the country. A lot had geared up systems trucks etc for the "boom" in the 00s. An awful lot of 05 06 07 8 wheelers and mixer bottles still around . A few 16 and 17 regd trucks of that type about , but none sold , except for export since 08.
I paid €62 + 13.5 vat for 30N20 concrete.
€65+ for 35N20 concrete. Conveyor €8 per M extra.
Contractor that poured the tank for me , would be doing 2 tanks at least , and sometimes 3 a week, buying the bulk of his concrete from 1 supplier , bar the job happened to be any distance away. I expect he would be getting it for €60 , maybe a shade less.
Slats. There must be a dozen slat manufacturers in the country , maybe more. Banagher Concrete would one of the largest, in Co Offaly, (midlands) . They export a lot of beams and bridges to the UK.
A 12'6" slat (roughly) costs €50 per foot + 400 extra per manhole opening.
So, a 70 ft tank uses €70 x 50 = €3500 PLUS 2 manholes @ €400 each is €800. Total then of €4300.
Fierce completion between concrete suppliers. Farm building contractors had a very busy year in 2016. Mainly smaller jobs like mine , but a few dairy lads building for expansion. Lots doubled cow numbers over past 2 years. They will be old men before they are any better off , having paid for building costs , and some crazy land rents.
MickMoor
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Competition, along with gentle taxation are both lacking in the British mainland. I work from the North of Scotland,as far as Cornwall,and concrete is dear everywhere, just less so in some places. Locally, four quarries, within a five mile radius have closed in the past ten years. Don't get me started about urban colonisers.
multi power
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I notice most concrete here is controlled by the big companys , in my native northern Ireland it was all smaller independent family businesses, but it's not all bad news, steel and roofing material is cheaper this side of the water
multi power
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How much concrete?
Hilly
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could you concrete floor and thn build walls with blocks yourself cheaper ??
multi power
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Yes definitely
multi power
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That does make it sound dear
Mine was 70 ft long , 8 ft deep , and 16 ft wide , with slats , and 2 manhole slats. €16900 inc labour. Would be middle of the road as regards amount of steel. 35 N concrete. That also includes 13.5 vat , which is reclaimable.
I wouldnt even dream of an 8 ft tank built with blocks.
Anyway , here in Ireland , it would cost more with blocks , if you were paying labour to lay them , and plaster it.
A block is about 7 newton.
multi power
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What is wrong with blocks?