Slurry

[Cowabunga]

in my experience, Westminster "gold plates" the rules coming over from Brussels, then the Welsh Assembly Government "gold plates" the rules/guidance from Westminster, so to a large extent we have ourselves as a nation to blame for the ridiculous rules we have (I am talking about rules for compliance with training funding, but I am sure that area is a microcosm of all of the UK bureaucracy).

I will also add, it has been ridiculously wet this autumn, nearly every day the rain gauge shows 1".

I do think injection/trailing shoe is the way to go, however the ground is too wet to even get a tractor on now. Answer over the fence spreading.

There's only a few loads capacity for over the fence spreading. So it only works for a short while.

 

[ollie989898]

Slurry is great on arable land makes my continous wheat yield like a first wheat. Id take extra if ground was fit to travel before ploughing . Took in a large amount of dung from a cattle farmer last spring it grew a great crop but wild oats came with it so nothing is free really!!

Wild oats, docks etc all easy to deal with in cereals.

I thought you’d stepped off the chemical farming gravy train these days? That tenner an acre for dock sprays, several times, also takes out the clover (& any of the ‘herbs’ that seem to be getting popular for sward inclusion these days), meaning you have to use more N to maintain output.

I have a field that the previous tenant sublet to a local dairy farmer for maize. After that farmer reseeded it, it was smothered in docks, which I am still battling with 7 years later. The P&K from the slurry was all removed by the maize crop, leaving the field with indices at zero, and stubbornly refusing to move despite only ever grazing it.
Two good doses of Fibrophos have finally shifted it up a notch, without bringing any more docks in, the docks are getting down to (extensive) spot/patch spraying, and clover is slowly getting re-established. After ten years, I hope to have repaired the damage done from that slurry & maize.

Id take the nutrients from the slurry and deal with the weeds. I know which is costlier to deal with.

 

[Cowabunga]

They are in the soil, waiting !
60.000 seeds per plant per years worth

It probably comes in with bought-in hay silage and straw. Wouldn't you think?

Edit. Neil has already pointed out the obvious culprits.

 

[Bald Rick]

I have a cunning plan


We’ve recently taken on 85ac at the mouth of the estuary and the main holding is about a mile upstream......

 

[Scholsey]

I have a cunning plan


We’ve recently taken on 85ac at the mouth of the estuary and the main holding is about a mile upstream......

 

[Cowabunga]

I have a cunning plan


We’ve recently taken on 85ac at the mouth of the estuary and the main holding is about a mile upstream......

It must be a slack time of year for those Mansel Davies and South Carnarfon milk tankers just now. Maybe they can be put to an alternative use.

 

[Bald Rick]

Well I was more thinking along the lines of a Heath Robinson umbilical system and was pondering size of suction hose ..

 

[Derrick Hughes]

It probably comes in with bought-in hay silage and straw. Wouldn't you think?

Edit. Neil has already pointed out the obvious culprits.

Dont think there are many docks in straw,
Would a tractor with flotation tyres working off a pump make much mess ? Even now , run off would be the issue would it not . The same as pumping over the hedge

 

[Friesianfan]

What a nasty thread.

 

[Bald Rick]

What a nasty thread.

Shurely “sh!tty”?

 

[Henarar]

Well I’ve given up reading all the posts in this thread.
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What a ridiculous bunch of 3 yr old kids you are behaving like.

Maybe you think you’re being clever but to everyone looking in, you just look stupid.

The op asked a question, surely not unreasonable to get an answer, ideally from people that know what they’re talking about rather than those that do not.

If people can’t post without attacking other members on here maybe they shouldn’t be posting at all.

Grow up. There’s enough crap in this world without the need to make more


*rant over*

yeah I think that the mods should set up a thread called 'Five year old's corner' or similar, and all posts that are just personal bickering are transferred into that. How about it ?

yep time to stop the name calling
Quite agree its really bad calling TFF members things like ridiculous and stupid and likening them to a bunch of 3 or is that 5 year olds, next someone will say its nothing but a load of bickering crap

 

[7610 super q]

yeah I think that the mods should set up a thread called 'Five year old's corner' or similar, and all posts that are just personal bickering are transferred into that. How about it ?

Well don't bother on my account ( if you're referring to me ) . If my posts are so offensive, I apologise, and will stop posting.
TBH, I thought I'd borne the brunt of the insults and never ending woodworm jokes etc with mainly good humour over the last 5 years. But it's not going to be one way traffic. Take the pish / insult ,and you'll get it in return. I don't recall blubbing that woodworm jokes were " childish ".
So it's 2 way traffic, or none at all. By the sound of it, none at all gets the vote. Fair enough then.

 

[Tarw Coch]

It probably comes in with bought-in hay silage and straw. Wouldn't you think?

Edit. Neil has already pointed out the obvious culprits.

It has allready been pointed out that docks are prolific producers of seed and that these seeds can remain dormant in the soil for many years. I suspect it’s that they raise their heads where there is plenty of slurry not because they have come in the slurry but because they are taking advantage of the extra nutrients in the soil that it provides.

 

[Cowabunga]

yep time to stop the name calling
Quite agree its really bad calling TFF members things like ridiculous and stupid and likening them to a bunch of 3 or is that 5 year olds, next someone will say its nothing but a load of bickering crap

I think the irony is completely lost on many. But I appreciate both irony and sarcasm despite the latter being the lowest form of wit.

 

[Cowabunga]

It has allready been pointed out that docks are prolific producers of seed and that these seeds can remain dormant in the soil for many years. I suspect it’s that they raise their heads where there is plenty of slurry not because they have come in the slurry but because they are taking advantage of the extra nutrients in the soil that it provides.

Yes, high fertility is a prerequisite and continual cutting and cattle poaching makes for a more open pasture that gives all kinds of weeds, but docks in particular, an opportunity.

 

[Derrick Hughes]

yep time to stop the name calling
Quite agree its really bad calling TFF members things like ridiculous and stupid and likening them to a bunch of 3 or is that 5 year olds, next someone will say its nothing but a load of bickering crap

I have decided not to coment anymore on Brexit after what my young daughter had to witness in London yesterday .
I am sorry if i have been rude to anyone on here on the subject .
We should be here to help one another
Hope you all have a nice day , i can actually see a bit of Blue Sky this morning

 

[Cowabunga]

Well don't bother on my account ( if you're referring to me ) . If my posts are so offensive, I apologise, and will stop posting.
TBH, I thought I'd borne the brunt of the insults and never ending woodworm jokes etc with mainly good humour over the last 5 years. But it's not going to be one way traffic. Take the pish / insult ,and you'll get it in return. I don't recall blubbing that woodworm jokes were " childish ".
So it's 2 way traffic, or none at all. By the sound of it, none at all gets the vote. Fair enough then.

You have actually made zero on-topic contribution to this topic. Zero. Have a look back. All you have done is troll. Have a read back if you don't believe it yourself.

 

[Derrick Hughes]

It has allready been pointed out that docks are prolific producers of seed and that these seeds can remain dormant in the soil for many years. I suspect it’s that they raise their heads where there is plenty of slurry not because they have come in the slurry but because they are taking advantage of the extra nutrients in the soil that it provides.

70 years and they love the Potash in slurry . Slurry seeding at its worst !

 

[Derrick Hughes]

Arnt we as farmers all guilty of not planning for the worst, but as we have no idea what the worst can be how can you plan for it !

 

[Cowabunga]

It has allready been pointed out that docks are prolific producers of seed and that these seeds can remain dormant in the soil for many years. I suspect it’s that they raise their heads where there is plenty of slurry not because they have come in the slurry but because they are taking advantage of the extra nutrients in the soil that it provides.

It is said that slurry doesn't kill the seed. Solid muck does, through the heat produced in the midden. I suspect though, that solid muck isn't always an efficient killer of dock seed, because much of it doesn't get to heat up sufficiently, if at all. The outside of the midden for instance and muck spread straight from a barn.