Slurry

[Cowabunga]

Talk of digging lagoons , slurry bags or even a separator are all longer term solutions and do nothing to resolve the immediate problem.
Lagoons will need planning and EA approval, probably EA approval if not planning for a slurry bag and possibly planning for a separator, it all takes time without mentioning the expense for a problem which hasn’t manifested itself before, maybe won’t again and as the OP has pointed out, changes to legislation are rumoured to be on the horizon so now isn’t the time to spend relatively large sums of money on something which won’t be compatible with future legislation.

The immediate problem is what to do with slurry now without causing any pollution, that will depend a lot on weather going forwards and the type of land he has . He’s not in an NVZ so there’s no restrictions on when he can spread so as much as anything he needs to hope for some drying weather and it will then depend on the type of land he has.

Been clearing up after the concrete groovers this afternoon. I still have about 60 cattle out but will have 45 less out by tomorrow night. The grass is getting short for them now.
Tomorrow I'll be carting a few loads of slurry out, because it hasn't rained for some 48 hours. Only a few acres suitable yet but every little helps.

 

[Ukjay]

The Duck doesnt mean to offend anyone and to be fair to him he is usually spot on with his facts and research. If he doesnt know the answer he will admit it . As regards contingency plans for slurry anyone with a herd of cows will tell you no plan will survive first contact with a WET WET back end and having double storage is not economically feasible . Its not lack of forward planning its just a once off event same as an arable farmer has normally one system for establishing his crops when a wet year comes along he can hardly have a spare set of different kit just in case can he ? The thread is hugely entertaining but lets not turn it into a DUCK shoot !!!

Behave yourself. That guy loves belittling all who dare challenge him. He holds himself with such esteem that it makes you want to chuck on occasion.

If one doesn't wish to do such things, then one should avoid it - period.

And for the record - our one off weather is not a one off. Our climate is changing at an alarming rate, so one would ask whether slurry lagoons are viable in the current environments.

I would say we may not be looking at the elephant in the closet here because it is a scary concept to accept.

Or, is the design so far outdated - it is not viable with the challenges faced today.

You see, if you see things openly, there are more questions than answers, but no - let's try and defend the indefensible..

 

[pappuller]

@pappuller is the liquid that comes out of a separator still classed as slurry or is it dirty water ?

I think and don't quote me the liquid is still slurry but the solids can be treated as fym, we looked at the separator job but our single phase electric was the big stumbling block

 

[pappuller]

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Sorry I didn’t realise that post blamingEurope for low prices et cetera et cetera should be allowed to stand unchallenged. How depressing.

maybe you and I ought to slither off back to the dairy thread before it gets nasty down here ??

 

[Cowabunga]

Really. Well I can't be arsed to trawl though all your insults, not enough hours in the day, but just for starters, here's one of your posts that hint at my bad management, and another that implies my business is a " disaster ".

Independent Wales

You miss the point, which is that if it was up to Westminster it would not have been spent in Wales. They would have spent it on Crossrail or more vanity projects that grossly overspend, like HS2Would you build a Trump Type wall on the border

thefarmingforum.co.uk

Low mood in agriculture

Ahem !!! Are folks discussing woodworm behind my back ?:LOL:

thefarmingforum.co.uk

I have said that the EU has little to do with whatever puts that chip on your shoulder. While you do actually bitch incessantly about how the EU has done you wrong, I have said time and again that many of your neighbours have farmed through the same time period and thrived. Am I wrong about this? I bet you that I am correct because I know a broad spectrum of farmers. That being so, and assuming that the EU has not actually limited your business, what exactly is different in your situation compared to those others? That's a perfectly reasonable question I believe. One that I'll leave you to ponder while I relax.

 

[7610 super q]

I have said that the EU has little to do with whatever puts that chip on your shoulder. While you do actually bitch incessantly about how the EU has done you wrong, I have said time and again that many of your neighbours have farmed through the same time period and thrived. Am I wrong about this? I bet you that I am correct because I know a broad spectrum of farmers. That being so, and assuming that the EU has not actually limited your business, what exactly is different in your situation compared to those others? That's a perfectly reasonable question I believe. One that I'll leave you to ponder while I relax.

You accused me of lying. Without too much searching I found those posts. I expect an apology.

 

[Cowabunga]

I think and don't quote me the liquid is still slurry but the solids can be treated as fym, we looked at the separator job but our single phase electric was the big stumbling block

Oh oh! That's another stumbling block for me as well. Why does it need that much power though?

I've only seen one separator working and that was, must be a couple of decades ago. The only thing I really remember about it was the stringent smell of the solids.

 

[Cowabunga]

You accused me of lying. Without too much searching I found those posts. I expect an apology.

Well you are not getting one because you are deluded. I see nothing in those quotes.

 

[7610 super q]

Well you are not getting one because you are deluded. I see nothing in those quotes.

I thought as much. Just remember this forum has a fairly good search facility before you try that stunt again.

 

[Cowabunga]

I thought as much. Just remember this forum has a fairly good search facility before you try that stunt again.

Yes it has, so use it and show us. While you are at it, show me where I called you a liar as well. I have said that you are deluded and a troll, which you confirm more with each post. The wise thing to do when in a hole is to stop digging.

 

[lazy farmer]

Oh oh! That's another stumbling block for me as well. Why does it need that much power though?

I've only seen one separator working and that was, must be a couple of decades ago. The only thing I really remember about it was the stringent smell of the solids.

We have one. We spent 30K in it and 10k on a clay lined hole in the ground for the dirty water.by doing this We now have at least 2 yrs space for the solids which we now compost. And 6 months normally l for the effluent. Though it is a bit higher than normal for mid Nov. I must be a terrible farmer too☹

 

[nonemouse]

Yes it has, so use it and show us. While you are at it, show me where I called you a liar as well. I have said that you are deluded and a troll, which you confirm more with each post. The wise thing to do when in a hole is to stop digging.

he could sell you his newly dug hole to keep some slurry in?

 

[7610 super q]

Three of the lowest tenth percentile flocking together I see. Again I demand you answer and quote to justify your claim. We all know you can't any more than your kin 7610superQ can when challenged. All mouth and no substance both.

Only need to go back 20 minutes to find this one.

Bye, bye. I'll leave you to stop digging your hole. Probably deep enough to hold most of your surplus slurry now I should imagine.

 

[Cowcorn]

Really. Well I can't be arsed to trawl though all your insults, not enough hours in the day, but just for starters, here's one of your posts that hint at my bad management, and another that implies my business is a " disaster ".

Independent Wales

You miss the point, which is that if it was up to Westminster it would not have been spent in Wales. They would have spent it on Crossrail or more vanity projects that grossly overspend, like HS2Would you build a Trump Type wall on the border

thefarmingforum.co.uk

Low mood in agriculture

Ahem !!! Are folks discussing woodworm behind my back ?:LOL:

thefarmingforum.co.uk

Interesting to see who " liked " those insults too.

Dont take everything to heart 7610 i for one think you have been very unfortunate in the cards you were dealt during the various cap reforms. Nothing to do with you management or your business . It cant be a disaster as you are still in the game l often agree with your views and like youre posts but these days its hard to know whose right or where the solution lies . Only certainity is that we will continue to have to run faster to stand still. Many of the arguments on here go sour when things get personal unfortunately whichever side of the divide you are on

 

[Ukjay]

Put it in context. The context of this topic, and you're lumped in with them. I'm not surprised. You have a track record.

Sorry, I didn't realise I was one that had no contingency plan in place for a potential environmental catastrophe after implying through all my previous posts to all and sundry how great I am.

So, get over yourself and take your own medicine....

 

[davidroberts30]

What a load of sh!t,literally
Worse than primary school kids the lot of you
I suggest you go romance your better halves and get a bit ,might take the edge of your moods


I'm out

 

[Ukjay]

What a load of sh!t,literally
Worse than primary school kids the lot of you
I suggest you go romance your better halves and get a bit ,might take the edge of your moods


I'm out

Mental note, must watch more Dragons Den to align my logic......

 

[neilo]

I think and don't quote me the liquid is still slurry but the solids can be treated as fym, we looked at the separator job but our single phase electric was the big stumbling block

That's correct. The separated liquid is still 'slurry'.

 

[pappuller]

Oh oh! That's another stumbling block for me as well. Why does it need that much power though?

I've only seen one separator working and that was, must be a couple of decades ago. The only thing I really remember about it was the stringent smell of the solids.

It's the leccy pump to get the slurry up to the separator that was the issue, the other alternative was an old tractor chugging a pto pump but that is fraught with issues

 

[pappuller]

We have one. We spent 30K in it and 10k on a clay lined hole in the ground for the dirty water.by doing this We now have at least 2 yrs space for the solids which we now compost. And 6 months normally l for the effluent. Though it is a bit higher than normal for mid Nov. I must be a terrible farmer too[emoji852]

3 phase electric ?