Sop rules

[Mydexta]

does anyone have a copy of the sop rules which they could send me???


I’m Competing at the six nations in wales in October, which is being run under sop rules and I’d just like to check a few things before I go, just to make sure I’m on the right side of the stewards from the start

 

[ploughman61]

does anyone have a copy of the sop rules which they could send me???


I’m Competing at the six nations in wales in October, which is being run under sop rules and I’d just like to check a few things before I go, just to make sure I’m on the right side of the stewards from the start

new copy came out this spring I have got a copy and could copy it and send it to you, as long as that dose not get me in more trouble with sop.

 

[ploughman1963]

new copy came out this spring I have got a copy and could copy it and send it to you, as long as that dose not get me in more trouble with sop.

 

[Fergie Ploughman]

...are there some new rules then ?

 

[Fergie Ploughman]

does anyone have a copy of the sop rules which they could send me???


I’m Competing at the six nations in wales in October, which is being run under sop rules and I’d just like to check a few things before I go, just to make sure I’m on the right side of the stewards from the start

Me to, see you there!!

 

[arcobob]

does anyone have a copy of the sop rules which they could send me???


I’m Competing at the six nations in wales in October, which is being run under sop rules and I’d just like to check a few things before I go, just to make sure I’m on the right side of the stewards from the start

SOP might supply you-then on the other hand they might not depending on whether you are on the banned list or not.

 

[Petetheploughman]

I don’ t know whether or not this is true, but I have heard that one of the new rules is everybody has got to start the same way. Competitors no longer can start at either end when they plough the opening.

 

[ploughman61]

I don’ t know whether or not this is true, but I have heard that one of the new rules is everybody has got to start the same way. Competitors no longer can start at either end when they plough the opening.

yes I understand this was a new crazy rule passed after the agm very hard to enforce, sometimes wonder were they are going with rules

 

[Howard150]

I don’ t know whether or not this is true, but I have heard that one of the new rules is everybody has got to start the same way. Competitors no longer can start at either end when they plough the opening.

Everybody used to think that as you were led to the plot then you were forced to start from that end. This was never the case.
If it is the case now then it is pointless, pathetic and will doubtless cause conflict for those visually impaired when driving into the sun on the first time across. What need of it?

does anyone have a copy of the sop rules which they could send me???
I’m Competing at the six nations in wales in October, which is being run under sop rules and I’d just like to check a few things before I go, just to make sure I’m on the right side of the stewards from the start

Contact the organisers Euan. Normally they should be sent with the entry forms. As you are competing in a ‘Foreign Country’ it is unfair that you should be expected to be fully aware of the rules which they are ploughing by - especially when these are from a third party. You are definitely coming at this from the right angle as the rules in question are much more relaxed than those north of the border where the extra over time penalties, banned single furrow starts and limited empty runs apply.
Why the said rules were charged for in the first instance is beyond me. They should be free at the point of issue.

 

[Petetheploughman]

Everybody used to think that as you were led to the plot then you were forced to start from that end. This was never the case.
If it is the case now then it is pointless, pathetic and will doubtless cause conflict for those visually impaired when driving into the sun on the first time across. What need of it?



Contact the organisers Euan. Normally they should be sent with the entry forms. As you are competing in a ‘Foreign Country’ it is unfair that you should be expected to be fully aware of the rules which they are ploughing by - especially when these are from a third party. You are definitely coming at this from the right angle as the rules in question are much more relaxed than those north of the border where the extra over time penalties, banned single furrow starts and limited empty runs apply.
Why the said rules were charged for in the first instance is beyond me. They should be free at the point of issue.

That's right David, what if the sun is going to be shining in front of you and your poles? I shall expect the SOP to provide sunglasses for the ploughmen if this is the case!! Perhaps the SOP have enforced this rule because they think if they wear sunglasses they might look cool!!

 

[arcobob]

That's right David, what if the sun is going to be shining in front of you and your poles? I shall expect the SOP to provide sunglasses for the ploughmen if this is the case!! Perhaps the SOP have enforced this rule because they think if they wear sunglasses they might look cool!!

There are other considerations like ploughing uphill,downhill or towards a background of white tents , box vans etc. Part of the skill is called field craft and they have chosen to take matters into their own hands. Most of the ploughing population can now be classed as past their best as far as eyesight is concerned and they don’t need some jumped up jerk of an official telling them to ruin their day. I can think of no good reason for this rule.

 

[Petetheploughman]

I agree. The only reason I can think of is it will be easier for the judges to judge the split.

 

[ploughman61]

I agree. The only reason I can think of is it will be easier for the judges to judge the split.

wont make any difference to judging as you should have one at each end of the plot.

 

[arcobob]

I agree. The only reason I can think of is it will be easier for the judges to judge the split.

And if you happen to have a left handed plough it all looks arse about face anyway. Who are these judges who can`t judge a split from either direction?

 

[Mydexta]

Ok, here’s the dilemma

Are these tail pieces legal in the classic class under sop rules??

 

[Howard150]

View attachment 711934 Ok, here’s the dilemma

Are these tail pieces legal in the classic class under sop rules??

Not when I was ploughing at the British. Scrutineers made them take them off in Hereford. The tailpiece is fine, it’s the adjustment mechanism that is not.

There are other considerations like ploughing uphill,downhill or towards a background of white tents , box vans etc. Part of the skill is called field craft and they have chosen to take matters into their own hands. Most of the ploughing population can now be classed as past their best as far as eyesight is concerned and they don’t need some jumped up jerk of an official telling them to ruin their day. I can think of no good reason for this rule.

I agree. The only reason I can think of is it will be easier for the judges to judge the split.

wont make any difference to judging as you should have one at each end of the plot.

The point in question is the direction of travel. Into the sun / away from the sun, whilst causing difficulty / advantage for the ploughman, has no effect whatsoever on the look of the opening, (ploughing running East to West ). Direction of ploughing North to South then whole different ballgame. Surely part of the skill is in knowing these things and not in homogenised ‘you will do as you are told’. When running N/S the sun shines either over the cut edge of the furrow wall onto the furrow back creating shadow in the furrow bottom or over the furrow into the furrow bottom creating no shadow and highlighting the cut edge. In shadow the opening is indistinct, illuminated then a whole new ballgame and obviously given more points. Dull day then no difference.

Just in passing - had to laugh out loud looking at the world results. Despite the infinite wisdom of all concerned in points maximum of 10 per aspect, many of the placing were decided by half marks. Yes - 0.5 of a Mark. Why not just leave it at 20. Not having seen the actual score sheets, if the actual points used were 20 per aspect, then the total per aspect needs to revert to 40. Sorry for the pun but for all the interference and conniving - the actual end result is somewhat ‘’pointless’

 

[Mydexta]

Here’s what I can find in the sop rules about them

 

[Howard150]

View attachment 712014 View attachment 712016 View attachment 712014 Here’s what I can find in the sop rules about them

Two piece are what were originally fitted to and originally made for a TS86. It could be argued that the ones posted by Euan are 3 piece. If in doubt ask the man who pays the wages!
One thing here we have all forgotten. By and large tailpieces would not be out of place in a skip and are seldom nescessary in the Classic Class as far as TCN’s are concerned. I used them to flatten the chip and in very hard unyielding clay to make the show and sole furrows behave and sit exactly where I wanted them to sit.

 

[Mydexta]

That’s all I use it for as they make a great job of levelling the chip. I don’t even have one fitted to the front body.

 

[Ley253]

Its a stupid rule, and unenforceable! If a man parks his tractor at the designated end but then drive to the other end with out putting the plough into work, has he started or not?The rule makes no mention of the need for the plough to be in the ground! Another gem is the "no Hydraulic rams on drawbars" in some classes, as the stated hyd rams are the only thing mentioned, electric is ok then!