Sprayer control systems

I recently read up on the Teejet 844E spraye controller which I believe adusts the flow in line with changes in forward speed to maintain application rates. Does the Hardi HC 2500 do the same? I assume the speed input on the Hardi system is via a wheel sensor as with the teejet?

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topcat2006

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Technically, you could not increase one without increasing the other. (Unless flow was so low that there was both liquid and air able to pass through the nozzle orifice together)
One could increase flow by increasing internal bore of the pipe whilst keeping pressure the same or even restrict flow by decreasing the internal bore of the pipe what the pressure remains the same.

My comment was aimed entirely at HOW the rate controller controls flow.
 

fudge

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A flow based rate controller works in conjunction with a speed sensor and a flow meter. As the speed varies the box works out the required flow to achieve the desired application rate, then adjusts the flow by changing the pressure.
 

topcat2006

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A flow based rate controller works in conjunction with a speed sensor and a flow meter. As the speed varies the box works out the required flow to achieve the desired application rate, then adjusts the flow by changing the pressure.
No - it's not measuring pressure so therefore it can't change it. As far as the flow based rate controller is concerned it's changing flow. The by product of it changing the flow is that the pressure will change (unless there is a bypass or PRV).
 

Exfarmer

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No - it's not measuring pressure so therefore it can't change it. As far as the flow based rate controller is concerned it's changing flow. The by product of it changing the flow is that the pressure will change (unless there is a bypass or PRV).
I think you will find the flow based rate controller measures the flow, compares it to the speed and adjusts the pressure accordingly. This adjustment of pressure is achieved by opening or closing the bypass valve which sends mix back to the recirculation.
I think you will find there is an electronic pressure sensor to give the controller its necessary input.
 
I think you will find the flow based rate controller measures the flow, compares it to the speed and adjusts the pressure accordingly. This adjustment of pressure is achieved by opening or closing the bypass valve which sends mix back to the recirculation.
I think you will find there is an electronic pressure sensor to give the controller its necessary input.
It's usually one or the other not both together. Pressure sensing for very high flow rates.
 

Campbell

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I'll have a go.
Flow based system are not concerned with pressure. They monitor flow through a flow sensor, and compare this with ground speed, flow rate is then controlled by a 'dump' valve back to tank.
Example: 200 l/ha with 48 x 04 nozzles at 10k = flow rate of 77 lt/min, this is what is being controlled. Hence VP type nozzles are important to maintain the correct spray pattern as the ground speed and thus flow rate varies.
 
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fudge

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Just to complicate further - if you have say 5 boom sections that can be switched off individually as you cross a tapering headland, is this compensated for - specifically Hardi HC 2500
Thanks
Any constant rate controller should do that. I am not familiar with the hardi machine but any controller has to be programmed correctly. So you need to make sure the nozzle spacing and boom section configuration is entered as well as the working width.
 

Serup

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Just to complicate further - if you have say 5 boom sections that can be switched off individually as you cross a tapering headland, is this compensated for - specifically Hardi HC 2500
Thanks

i have a Hardi hc5500 and 8 sections. It works like you ask. The total flow required go down together with sections closed, so pressure is constant if speed is.
You have to adjust the flow through the section valves to match the flow of your current nozzle for this to work correct.
I am not sure what the difference of a 2500 and 5500 is.
 

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