Spreading Fert 36m
- Thread starter Henry B
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Knockie would know better, but last time I looked real 'brown sugar' quality AS was pretty cheap. Dissolve it easily, but lots of volume- solid it is a good source of N & S especially if on high pH soils as it acidifies. Remember years ago in Durham some growers used nothing else, great crops.
As stated, we now have a great method of getting avadex on- when WE want, not when a contractor can get to us. It has had a great effect on background levels of BG applied early Oct along with a robust Crystal/DFF pre-em. No follow up necessary.
I don't think you would buy the machine for that reason- but it is a very useful benefit!
As stated, we now have a great method of getting avadex on- when WE want, not when a contractor can get to us. It has had a great effect on background levels of BG applied early Oct along with a robust Crystal/DFF pre-em. No follow up necessary.
I don't think you would buy the machine for that reason- but it is a very useful benefit!
- Location
- Lincolnshire
I thought I'd resurrect this old thread thinking their might be a few more people that have moved up to 36m,just wondering what products/manufacturer's you are using as there is not a lot of info out there for these widths.
The books will be opening soon for the new season so I want to make sure i get the right product
Just changing spreader to a KV Geo spreader with section control for next season.
The books will be opening soon for the new season so I want to make sure i get the right product
Just changing spreader to a KV Geo spreader with section control for next season.
ollie989898
Member
If you want to fertilise at 36m put it through a sprayer. Sod spending 100k on a pneumatic machine!!
Deutzdx3
Member
Great machines, they are good up to 45m with the right product. Urea isn’t great at 36m. I think you need to get a milled granule. They seem to spread better and more consistent than cracked products. Speak to KV. They have guys that can advise on the best products and tech help if needed. I remember there are two sets of vanes for them. You might need the 45m vanes to get some products near your 36m
Can get a second hand one for 60k from Europe. Can also use them for avadex, slug pellets, cover crops etc. I think if you are really pushed doing all liquid and spraying with one sprayer (1500ha +) a second hand one could offer some great flexibility. Spinning discs are a load of rubbish I can see terrible striping on numerous farms around here at 24m and it happens every year!
- Location
- Lincolnshire
Jesus my sprayer wasn't much more than that so I'm not going to blow another 60k on a used spreader.
I'm on liquid now,its just not working here, Going back to solid,shed space is not an issue or logistics.
There is a lot of good points to liquid but for me I'm getting far to much scorch.I'm exposed to a lot of wind up here on the heath so they think its down too to much wind rub.
Neighbour who is on 30m was worried about getting it out that wide has no stripping,its down to spreader setup/product.
So for me its either a Yara or CF product and I don't think I'll be bothering with urea.
- Location
- Lincolnshire
I have customers who apply Amidas, Axan and Extran at 36m without any issues.
I would agree with spreader set up and forward speed! I have seen more striping where people drive too fast and overload the discs!!
I would agree with spreader set up and forward speed! I have seen more striping where people drive too fast and overload the discs!!
Honest john
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- Location
- Fenland
Since I changed to a Amazone TA-TS the spreading at 36 m has been good.
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- Location
- N.Yorkshire
Had no problem spreading yara urea out to 36m, with a amazon za ts, just getting hold of the stuff. Just pick the correct day and set up properly, Amazone settings take some beating.
- Location
- north lincs
Spread a few different ureas at 36 with a bredal with 42m discs (think they are k discs). Tray testing is essential, took 11 passes over the trays for one urea S product to get an acceptable pattern but was enough to put me off having any more. Spread straight urea no issues so buy in bulk . Also spreading a lot of gypsum so don't need the sulphur anymore.
Are you thinking of H Discs?
Spread all N+S (27N 4%S) 36 Metre with Bredal F10
Tray tested ok and crops look even
- Location
- north lincs
Yes that's the ones, the ureaS spread fine,didn't get any stripes but it was on the limit. Single top was easy to get out to 36 as I imagine any quality fert would be. Tsp no problem, mop bit of a stretch. Bredal is a k45 demount on a Bateman. Been at 36 for 4 years now without problems.
Completely agree, we are on 32m and MOP beyond 30m is a stretch, as we only use it after spuds on wheat and a low dose on OSR not really an issue, that's with a double overlap on a KRM, so forgiving. On wider tramlines there is no way we would have the the timeliness required to apply solid N accurately other than as a liquid. Have to remember that striping only show's when CoV is greater than 20%.
- Location
- Bury St Edmunds
warksfarmer
Member
Loads of striping this year from what I’ve seen. I’d rather put up with a bit of scorch than missed fertilised bits.
Don't get why people are getting striping at 24m. Surely must be more down to poorly set machines rather than spinner not being capable. I am just 24m and very happy with accuracy. In area there are people spreading 30m and 32m with urea. One Kuhn and one Amazon and can not see striping on theirs either. They admit they have to be more choosy on the days they apply it.
We run a big Kuhn pneumatic between two of the 3 estates. I suppose if the alternative to urea is liquid-what is the cost differential per kgN/per Ha? We cover 2500+ ha of most, but not all crops with it, and when we first did the maths, the financial savings were pretty huge over either AN or liquids. NB-we used to be wholly liquid here-now only first N&S dressing. Hence we bought the machine-have spinners for potash/grass etc
Don't think you've set them up properly in the past if you think they are rubbish or your neighbours for that matter especially on 24m!? Had an old simple kuhn spreader that never striped and now have a kv geospread with section control which is just on a totally different level. Spreading granular urea and nitram very well and very accurately.