Spreading fiberphos and lime

YELROM

Member
Location
North Yorkshire
Does anyone spread fiberphos or lime through a standard vertical beater bunning spreader
I cant see it being accurate enough but have been quoted £4/ac to spread 250kg fiberphos/ac and £11.60/ac to spread 2t/ac of lime.These are spreading prices only
This is on a 100ac block on to stubble, i think the liming is a bit dear
 

Brisel

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Midlands
I don't see how the beaters will fling it far enough personally. See the speed and size of the discs on a lime spreader and you'll see why.
 
Whilst I think its a good product, fibrophos is a bad enough thing to spread at the best of times. I do ours at about 8/9 metre wheelings using a bredal spreader. You cannot really put less than 6cwt / acre on because otherwise the slide is not open enough to let enough product thru. the faster you go the better job it makes of spreading as obviously ground driven this drops more stuff on the discs. and you cannot do it when its windy.
I think it might be this lack of precision that prevents more folk using fibrophos.
I think you would be a brave and a rich man to put it thru a muck spreader but I will stand to be corrected.
 

Clive

Staff Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lichfield
Whilst I think its a good product, fibrophos is a bad enough thing to spread at the best of times. I do ours at about 8/9 metre wheelings using a bredal spreader. You cannot really put less than 6cwt / acre on because otherwise the slide is not open enough to let enough product thru. the faster you go the better job it makes of spreading as obviously ground driven this drops more stuff on the discs. and you cannot do it when its windy.
I think it might be this lack of precision that prevents more folk using fibrophos.
I think you would be a brave and a rich man to put it thru a muck spreader but I will stand to be corrected.

They are product that can not be ignored at the price, spreading isn't easy but it is possible

Kalfos is £45 delivered I just had 4 loads delivered - utter no brainier vs bagged products IMO and well worth a bit of spreading effort
 

tr250

Member
Location
Northants
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Our lime spreading contractor broke down last year and we were desperate so used bunning worked ok but needs a good operator to judge patches and tons used etc but got it evenly on the field. Previously we had a Agrihire horizontal beater and discs that worked really well on lime but was crap with our fym so we sold it within 6 months
 

Mounty

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Suffolk
Does anyone spread fiberphos or lime through a standard vertical beater bunning spreader
I cant see it being accurate enough but have been quoted £4/ac to spread 250kg fiberphos/ac and £11.60/ac to spread 2t/ac of lime.These are spreading prices only
This is on a 100ac block on to stubble, i think the liming is a bit dear
£4/ac is about right for Fibrophos. You will never spread 250kg/ac effectively through a muck spreader IMO.
£11.60/ac is expensive for lime spreading. Normally charged by the tonne so £4 to £5/tonne (£8 to £10/ac) depending on your specific circumstances. 100ac @ 2t/ac sounds straight forward to me and would be nearer to £4/t than £5/t

They are product that can not be ignored at the price, spreading isn't easy but it is possible

Kalfos is £45 delivered I just had 4 loads delivered - utter no brainier vs bagged products IMO and well worth a bit of spreading effort
Be genuinely interested to see how you get on with spreading this @Clive - Agree, at that price its a no brainer but we could only get it to spread 4 metres so walked away, plus needed to double/triple the spreading charge. I can get it very, very, cheap but have decided to give it a swerve this season. Hopefully it's improved on last year.
 

Clive

Staff Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lichfield
Be genuinely interested to see how you get on with spreading this @Clive - Agree, at that price its a no brainer but we could only get to spread 4 metres so walked away, plus needed to double/triple the spreading charge. I can get it very, very, cheap but have decided to give it a swerve this season. Hopefully it's improved on last year.

spread some Friday - 12m was no problem through our k45, it's very like lime in consistency, i believe they have made changes
 

Clive

Staff Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lichfield
Right, must have conditioned it somehow then, it ran like water last year and wouldn't throw at all.

@KALFOS are on here so might be able to tell us ? really was very much like mag lime in consistency, few lumps that say on the hopper grid but not bad at all

this is my first year using it, so nothing to compare if it has changed

price is mega value though IMO for Phosphate and nv alone
 

KALFOS

Member
Location
Widnes
@KALFOS are on here so might be able to tell us ? really was very much like mag lime in consistency, few lumps that say on the hopper grid but not bad at all

this is my first year using it, so nothing to compare if it has changed

price is mega value though IMO for Phosphate and nv alone
Hi yes I've put a lot of work into improving the condition so it should spread out to 12m ok. Conditioned by screening if required, and adding water to take the dust off, but certainly shouldn't be running off. I recommend as a P fertiliser with the added NV benefit that counters the acidification effect of adding N to any system. Any lumps should break down easily in the hopper, they can form during transport.
 

Clive

Staff Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lichfield
Hi yes I've put a lot of work into improving the condition so it should spread out to 12m ok. Conditioned by screening if required, and adding water to take the dust off, but certainly shouldn't be running off. I recommend as a P fertiliser with the added NV benefit that counters the acidification effect of adding N to any system. Any lumps should break down easily in the hopper, they can form during transport.

the few lumps were not problematic - just sat on the grid and were kicked through / broke up easy when refilling the hopper

I'm pleasantly suprised so far !
 

Mounty

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Suffolk
Good you've managed to improve the spreading quality.
Quite high NV for one of these types of products. On that basis would you say it's not as suitable for land with avg to high pH due to P being locked up if already satisfactory pH levels are being raised even higher?
 
£4/ac is about right for Fibrophos. You will never spread 250kg/ac effectively through a muck spreader IMO.
£11.60/ac is expensive for lime spreading. Normally charged by the tonne so £4 to £5/tonne (£8 to £10/ac) depending on your specific circumstances. 100ac @ 2t/ac sounds straight forward to me and would be nearer to £4/t than £5/t


Be genuinely interested to see how you get on with spreading this @Clive - Agree, at that price its a no brainer but we could only get it to spread 4 metres so walked away, plus needed to double/triple the spreading charge. I can get it very, very, cheap but have decided to give it a swerve this season. Hopefully it's improved on last year.
I can also confirm this kalfos will spread better than it did before, we set the gps to 10 meters and it spreads fine, very similar to lime for spreading width.
 

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