Spring Beans

[Banana Bar]

I've got about 120 ha of beans to go in soon all FSS. Is it worth bothering? Might be best to put a cover crop in to spray off in August and DD wheat in Sept, or plant the beans and spend nothing apart from pre em and use them as a cc?
Comments?

BB

 

[yellow belly]

don't bother the less beans planted the better !!!

 

[Iben]

I've got about 120 ha of beans to go in soon all FSS. Is it worth bothering? Might be best to put a cover crop in to spray off in August and DD wheat in Sept, or plant the beans and spend nothing apart from pre em and use them as a cc?
Comments?

BB

Option two.

 

[franklin]

Similar situation here. Land is all ploughed. But put in the cost of Avadex, P&K, stomp, clomazone, linuron, aramo, fungicides to end up with a late harvest of 1.5t/ac of worthless beans. I'd sell the beans and leave the land bare.

 

[Iben]

Similar situation here. Land is all ploughed. But put in the cost of Avadex, P&K, stomp, clomazone, linuron, aramo, fungicides to end up with a late harvest of 1.5t/ac of worthless beans. I'd sell the beans and leave the land bare.

Can you rent those fields out? Surely someone would be willing to pay to have a go.

 

[franklin]

They will get planted with beans.

 

[ajd132]

what predicted yield

 

[franklin]

Will do anything between 1.5 and 2.5t/ac. Will budget on 1.75 and cross fingers.

 

[billboy 1]

Local AD boys round here apparently paying £200/a you plough and keep sub it's a no brained surely ??

 

[warksfarmer]

Local AD boys round here apparently paying £200/a you plough and keep sub it's a no brained surely ??

Grow the maize yourself to harvest then sell for £35/t and you keep the bps as well. At 15t/ac that's £560 before growing costs.

 

[billboy 1]

Happy days then . How much does it cost to grow including contractors fees? It's £525 by the way

 

[Clive]

Local AD boys round here apparently paying £200/a you plough and keep sub it's a no brained surely ??

The occasional fool around here would still pay that for combinable crop land on FBT !

can get double that for potato land around here, still not enough though given the damage you are doing to a 10k/ac asset

 

[Clive]

I've got about 120 ha of beans to go in soon all FSS. Is it worth bothering? Might be best to put a cover crop in to spray off in August and DD wheat in Sept, or plant the beans and spend nothing apart from pre em and use them as a cc?
Comments?

BB

depends how you plan to grow the beans ?

FFS, zero-till, glyphosate and shut the gate (pretty much how I'm growing my winters) and you might just make a margin

get sucked into spending money and you will probably loose

 

[billboy 1]

The occasional fool around here would still pay that for combinable crop land on FBT !

can get double that for potato land around here, still not enough though given the damage you are doing to a 10k/ac asset

Same here too re potato land but if it's not spud land ? No idea of growing costs my self

 

[franklin]

I am looking to see if there is any demand for grass silage for AD as I would prefer that to maize, and provides the end user with somewhere for the liquid digestate.

 

[SilliamWhale]

depends how you plan to grow the beans ?

FFS, zero-till, glyphosate and shut the gate (pretty much how I'm growing my winters) and you might just make a margin

get sucked into spending money and you will probably loose

I agree although a bit of chocolate spot spray is necessary for me in my area I think.

 

[Andrew K]

BB, Have forward sold my winter beans for £145 ex farm Oct delivery, plus any HC premium
.At least i know the price, at 5t/ha they would make a small profit and i will have a nice entry for DD wheat.

 

[Rob Holmes]

Sold some HC beans for £147 for Feb/March, they've done between 2.5-3t/acre, still think there's money in them.

 

[Wilberforce]

I am looking to see if there is any demand for grass silage for AD as I would prefer that to maize, and provides the end user with somewhere for the liquid digestate.

Plenty of digesters round here, all had a year or two using grass then gave it up. They use maize, rye, beet and chicken muck. Digestate is sorted in lagoons till needed or just piled on stubbles all winter long

 

[Wilberforce]

Happy days then . How much does it cost to grow including contractors fees? It's £525 by the way

Maize seed £65/acre. Sprays £25/acre, roundup, pre and post em herbicides. Fert varys a lot depending on what you have available, this year we went with half rate (25/kg acre) DAP, sewage cake (free but we spread it) and 220kg/ha of potash. Total fertilizer came in at £52/acre.

Contractor costs in this area are Plough £19/acre, Powerharrow £15/acre, Maize drill with fertilizer application £15/acre.

All costs will vary a lot farm to farm, area to area, depending on seed rate, weed burden, accessibility to manure and own or contractor machinery costs