Spring drilling 2023

[Student123]

What does everyone do for PGRs in a crop of April drilled malting spring barley? Heard some people do nothing but I’m not sure I’m brave enough

 

[Spencer]

What does everyone do for PGRs in a crop of April drilled malting spring barley? Heard some people do nothing but I’m not sure I’m brave enough

Nothing

 

[Chae1]

What does everyone do for PGRs in a crop of April drilled malting spring barley? Heard some people do nothing but I’m not sure I’m brave enough

Same as usual. Nothing

 

[ajd132]

What does everyone do for PGRs in a crop of April drilled malting spring barley? Heard some people do nothing but I’m not sure I’m brave enough

Nothing

 

[teslacoils]

I roll it.....

 

[teslacoils]

I mean, when it doesnt rain every day.

 

[Brisel]

What does everyone do for PGRs in a crop of April drilled malting spring barley? Heard some people do nothing but I’m not sure I’m brave enough

Nothing. If it's for malting, you won't be putting enough N on to make it fall over unless you've sown 600 seeds/m2+

 

[Bossfarmer]

Nothing. If it's for malting, you won't be putting enough N on to make it fall over unless you've sown 600 seeds/m2+

Depends how much muck youve under it and if its for high N surely?

 

[Two Tone]

Depends how much muck youve under it and if its for high N surely?

Depends:
if you have got any muck,
whether or not you would risk using it with a malting Barley,
how much of a reduction of artificial N you would compensate by if you dare use that muck on it,
how you establish DD/Min til/ploughing the crop as to if or not it is possible to put said muck ‘under’ it and
if you were able to get a high N malting contract.

Since most of the above are unlikely as @Student123 would have told us so, surely almost certainly the answer is “Nothing”.

 

[Bossfarmer]

Depends:
if you have got any muck,
whether or not you would risk using it with a malting Barley,
how much of a reduction of artificial N you would compensate by if you dare use that muck on it,
how you establish DD/Min til/ploughing the crop as to if or not it is possible to put said muck ‘under’ it and
if you were able to get a high N malting contract.

Since most of the above are unlikely as @Student123 would have told us so, surely almost certainly the answer is “Nothing”.

what do you mean risk using it with a malting barley? all mine goes on before sb

 

[Wombat]

Not the best sign when you have 4 geese stood in the middle of your spring barley having a paddle

 

[Simon Chiles]

When does it become too late in the year to plant spring barley, so much so that it becomes financialy unviable?
I've got an 8 acre field on some heavy wet ground that I was going to drill a few weeks ago but never did because it was too stodgy to go on with. So instead I concentrated on getting all the other fields planted in the hope of coming back and getting it in last. Now wishing I'd gone on with it, but as you all know, we're always wise after the event. I've never drilled later than about 22nd April before, which seemed plenty late enough, and this looks like being 2nd half of May at least, that's if it dries up enough to get back to it. Annoyingly, stubble was sprayed off and ploughed in Jan, and it was probably dry enough to drill in early March just before it turned in wet - if only I wasn't so cautious.
I've got visions of eventualy getting it drilled and we then go into a prolonged dry spell during which every rook and pigeon within a 5 mile radius will descend upon my emerging crop and strip it bare for the moisture in the seeds. With current price of inputs etc, I can't see much point going on with it if I'm only going to end up with half a crop, and a very late ripening crop at that.

When you get to this time of the year most spring crops will be ready to harvest in 100 days, I’d work back from the latest you think you want to harvest it to work out the latest drilling date you’d be happy with.

 

[Wombat]

 

[Two Tone]

what do you mean risk using it with a malting barley? all mine goes on before sb

Consistency and knowing the exact N within it and what went on KgsN/ha.

Are you on a high N malting contract?
If so, I suspect you wouldn’t need to worry so much.
Also, what do they use high N malting barley for? Surely not whiskey or beer!

Would I be right in assuming you put it on in the Autumn, then plough it in?
We couldn’t muck then plough any land here in the Spring expecting any sensible Spring crop yield. It needs doing in good Autumn conditions and weathering before drilling in the Spring.

 

[ajd132]

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I have ducks living in winter barley

 

[Wombat]

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I have ducks living in winter barley

Mess isn’t I evicted a load of geese off that bit this morning. Much to their disgust

 

[Spencer]

Not the best sign when you have 4 geese stood in the middle of your spring barley having a paddle

Goose manure is high N, are you considering a PGR?

 

[goodevans]

When you get to this time of the year most spring crops will be ready to harvest in 100 days, I’d work back from the latest you think you want to harvest it to work out the latest drilling date you’d be happy with.

Presuming the weather is favourable for the next 100 days should there be a yield penalty, it is the risk of the unknown weather that is the problem

 

[teslacoils]

Goose manure is high N, are you considering a PGR?

dont forget to record it on your nutrient management plan.

 

[Bossfarmer]

Consistency and knowing the exact N within it and what went on KgsN/ha.

Are you on a high N malting contract?
If so, I suspect you wouldn’t need to worry so much.
Also, what do they use high N malting barley for? Surely not whiskey or beer!

Would I be right in assuming you put it on in the Autumn, then plough it in?
We couldn’t muck then plough any land here in the Spring expecting any sensible Spring crop yield. It needs doing in good Autumn conditions and weathering before drilling in the Spring.

yes high N, distilling i believe they use it for could be wrong though, we spread infront of the plough then follow up with combi drill that way your getting the use of the N from it in the spring as it warms up? why wouldnt you get a good crop doing this?