Spring Wheat Results

[Brisel]

Mulika here did 6.6 t/ha with 15% protein, good Hagberg and passable specific weight but ergot meant it went for feed. The land should have been a first wheat, so a big loss of margin vs a mediocre winter wheat crop.

 

[Spencer]

Mulika here did 6.6 t/ha with 15% protein, good Hagberg and passable specific weight but ergot meant it went for feed. The land should have been a first wheat, so a big loss of margin vs a mediocre winter wheat crop.

Yes but if your hands forced, as I’m guessing it was...

 

[Handy Andy]

I’m thinking of sowing Kilburn spring wheat in November if conditions suit , am I mad ?
think I’m going to run out of winter wheat seed if we get everything planted I want to .

I've got Kilburn to go in as well. Our agronomist advises getting it in the ground between mid November and Christmas so if you're mad then so is he...

 

[Barry]

If you want Skyfall please be aware it is getting very tight in the seed trade. Demand is unsurprisingly pretty good and of course seed yields are down on a normal year. It does offer you effectively an extra month to get drilled beyond other winter wheat varieties.

There should be reasonable supplies of most Spring wheat varieties but I do not expect any of the continental types to be imported again. (A no deal Brexit wouldn't help that anyway)

 

[Huntstreet]

What sort of seed rates are people drilling spring wheat at? I do not have the TGW at the moment but just wanting rough kg/ha. I am looking at the following verities.

Mulika
Nissaba
Kitri

Also what rates of N have you had success with?

Many thanks

 

[warksfarmer]

What sort of seed rates are people drilling spring wheat at? I do not have the TGW at the moment but just wanting rough kg/ha. I am looking at the following verities.

Mulika
Nissaba
Kitri

Also what rates of N have you had success with?

Many thanks

300-400kg/ha +. Aim for 600 seeds at least.
150kg N split over 2 doses will get you milling protein.
Yield 2.5-3t/ac.
Awful to thrash so the sample wont be great and you can easily get over the milling threshold for admix.

 

[farmerm]

Any seed about?

 

[Huntstreet]

Okay thanks. What do you think the yield might be if you didn't use any pesticides post drilling? I have been asked to grow it on contract like this. Things have changed in our faming system since we last grew spring wheat but when we did last grow it we did a pre-m, T1, T2 and T3.

 

[Brisel]

Spring wheat is not a competitive crop, so weed control will be tricky even with inter row hoeing. I'm not up to speed with the disease resistance scores but I would expect to do at least 1 fungicide.

 

[warksfarmer]

Okay thanks. What do you think the yield might be if you didn't use any pesticides post drilling? I have been asked to grow it on contract like this. Things have changed in our faming system since we last grew spring wheat but when we did last grow it we did a pre-m, T1, T2 and T3.

Only ever did 1 fungicide and bought the cheapest available. Its not in the ground long enough to have lots of issues. Like already mentioned the herbicides might be an issue.

 

[czechmate]

Can anyone say why Barry the seed has « never forgotten « . Did he pass away?

 

[Brisel]

Can anyone say why Barry the seed has « never forgotten « . Did he pass away?

Sadly, he died a few years ago.

 

[czechmate]

Sadly, he died a few years ago.

no age …
And a brilliant poster

 

[Flintstone]

Okay thanks. What do you think the yield might be if you didn't use any pesticides post drilling? I have been asked to grow it on contract like this. Things have changed in our faming system since we last grew spring wheat but when we did last grow it we did a pre-m, T1, T2 and T3.

I started growing Spring wheat a couple of years ago, and it has become an important crop in the rotation here.

The key is to grow it cheaply, as said above. It doesn’t need lots of inputs sloshed all over it, and if you stick to some basic rules, it will do a gross margin that’s competitive with mainline crops.

Drilling in Feb/early March does produce slightly higher yields. I aim for 6.6 t/ha, and that’s easily achievable, even on average ground.

I only use one cheap fungicide. Any more is a waste of money.
150kgs of N in three splits.
A bog standard pre-em.
One PGR.

Cochise will give you a Group 2 premium, almost guaranteed. I also like the way it has a four month drilling window, which makes establishment less stressful in a one man band system like mine.

I also grow it on a 45 hectare Mid Tier obligation I have. So, basic over winter stubble (AB2), followed by low input cereal (AB14), and those two options give £460 per hectare. That’s the equivalent of another 2.6 t/ha of yield revenue, making it the same total revenue output as a 9 tonne crop of wheat, but with a fraction of the growing costs.

I’ll be putting in another 125 hectares, any time from now.

 

[Mixedupfarmer]

I started growing Spring wheat a couple of years ago, and it has become an important crop in the rotation here.

The key is to grow it cheaply, as said above. It doesn’t need lots of inputs sloshed all over it, and if you stick to some basic rules, it will do a gross margin that’s competitive with mainline crops.

Drilling in Feb/early March does produce slightly higher yields. I aim for 6.6 t/ha, and that’s easily achievable, even on average ground.

I only use one cheap fungicide. Any more is a waste of money.
150kgs of N in three splits.
A bog standard pre-em.
One PGR.

Cochise will give you a Group 2 premium, almost guaranteed. I also like the way it has a four month drilling window, which makes establishment less stressful in a one man band system like mine.

I also grow it on a 45 hectare Mid Tier obligation I have. So, basic over winter stubble (AB2), followed by low input cereal (AB14), and those two options give £460 per hectare. That’s the equivalent of another 2.6 t/ha of yield revenue, making it the same total revenue output as a 9 tonne crop of wheat, but with a fraction of the growing costs.

I’ll be putting in another 125 hectares, any time from now.

Ergot??

 

[Flintstone]

2022 was a bad year for ergot, but I’ve moved 700 tonnes so far this winter without any issues at all. It’s a risk, but not a guarantee, that ergot will be an issue.

 

[ajd132]

have always found spring wheat pretty profitable, in the absence of winter wheat being in that field.
have also found generally ergot pretty bad so cleaning that out soon eats into the margin.
would only grow if winter wheat wasn't in the ground. Cochise is a good variety.

 

[Mixedupfarmer]

have always found spring wheat pretty profitable, in the absence of winter wheat being in that field.
have also found generally ergot pretty bad so cleaning that out soon eats into the margin.
would only grow if winter wheat wasn't in the ground. Cochise is a good variety.

Seem to get on better with late sown winter wheats of the right variety, yield better and less ergot generally.

 

[Gong Farmer]

The key is to grow it cheaply, as said above. It doesn’t need lots of inputs sloshed all over it, and if you stick to some basic rules, it will do a gross margin that’s competitive with mainline crops.

I only use one cheap fungicide. Any more is a waste of money.

Agree, only seems to need one fungicide, a late 'T1' (around GS32) targeting mildew mainly, unless this comes in earlier of course. later sprays only if thought necessary.

 

[warksfarmer]

Ergot??

You have to be quite unfortunate for the sample taken at intake to have any ergot in it .............