Spring Wheat Seed Rate

[Refco]

Evening all,

Just had some spring wheat delivered after i ordered some in a panic. Five tonnes of "Monsun" dressed with Lamardor 400FS. Never heard of this variety before, nor the dressing, though i'm guessing it's just a spd. The tickets on the bags appear to be written in Polish, or similar.

Incidentally, i think that it may be C1 seed as under the Kategoria / Stopien section of the ticket it says Kwalifikowany-C/1.

Anyway, assuming that MTZ:55,1g is the TGW, what seed rate would you suggest and how many acres could i get out of five tonnes? I have any amount of failed ww to re-drill, so that's not a limiting factor...

North East England / Heavy opencast land, but south facing.

TIA.

 

[Old Spot]

I dont know the correct answer if this was an exam, but I am planting at 180kg/ha. Some say lower others higher. Spring wheat does not tiller like ww so IMO more seeds per sq m. Could go higher but the cost!

 

[Great In Grass]

Assuming the TGW is 55 and you sow 182kg/ha that's 330 seed m/2, divide your 5 tonne by 182 and get your acreage (almost 68 acres).

 

[fingermouse]

If we ever get drilling here i will be on 400plants m/2 at a TGW of 55 and 100% establishment that would be 220kg

 

[Mad Farmer]

I have sown some at 225kg/Ha and that was 48gm.
I would think that 180 kg/Ha was on the low side especially with a high 1000 grain weight

 

[Andrew K]

We have drilled spring wheat at 250kg/ha so far which is 45g TGW
Sounds alot of seed but the previous crop was OSR.We have our share of rooks and blackgrass as well!
Just chitted and showing a small root now.

 

[nick...]

id go for 250 kgs an hectare aswell.the rooks and crows will have half of it and the pidgeons will have a go aswell
nick.........

 

[jon9000]

We started last week at 200kg with a tgw of about 42,... Will go up to 250 when we get going again I think

 

[Refco]

Many thanks your input chaps, i reckon that I'll plumb for about 220 kg/ha. If only because there's a 54 acre block which would be nice to have boxed off. That said, if it doesn't stop raining soon, i don't think that anything will be getting boxed off!

 

[Will Blackburn]

Remember to up the rate the later it gets, because there will be even fewer tillers as time goes on.

 

[Refco]

Remember to up the rate the later it gets, because there will be even fewer tillers as time goes on.

When would you consider it 'late', so as to increase the seed rate?

My daffodils are no where near in flower, and i use those as a marker that spring is here and time to apply nitrogen. Would it be feasible to use them also as a spring crop seed rate increase marker? I just hate using the calendar, that's all.

 

[Will Blackburn]

Just a general thing I was told after the last wet Autumn. I think by April you struggle to get enough tillers to produce an economic crop, mind you wheat wasn't £185 ex.

 

[jon9000]

The spring wheat I drilled two weeks ago has barley chitted.

 

[farming4profit]

Dont get too excited about the C1 seed issue. Only UK and Denmark have C2 as a grade in cereals. Everywhere else its C1 but its the same quality as C2 - mind you if its from Poland their concept of quality may be somewhat different to ours - I dont mean weed seed levels in that comment, I'm thinking more along the lines of 'cosmetically pleasing' to the eye. I'm looking forward to seeing it in ear!

 

[Refco]

I'm looking forward to seeing it in ear!

So am I! Though at the rate that this weather is going, we might have a long wait...