Standing timber

[Speedstar]

What kind of money is 40+ year old standing timber worth per acre if you get a company to do everything then replant it ?

 

[Spencer]

By the time the agents and felling contractors have had their slice..


Not much...

 

[serf]

Prob sweet FA when you are looking to sell . And a kings ransom if you are looking to buy , that seems to be the usual story with these type of jobs !

 

[ImLost]

What timber and how many acres?

 

[carpenter1]

Is there some nice saw logs? Or lower value firewood?

 

[Glynh]

£20 a ton for standing hardwood. £25 for softwood as a rough guide. Less for small amounts, slopes, poor access etc and more for milling grade.

 

[som farmer]

probably worth more for firewood, we have some big larches, looked into it 2/3 years ago, very keen to have them, not at all keen on paying for them! They are still there, what comes down, firewood, easy to saw up, and split !

 

[Kevtherev]

Depends on species and who wants it
Douglas fir £45 ton roadside as sawlogs or bars.

 

[br jones]

£20 a ton for standing hardwood. £25 for softwood as a rough guide. Less for small amounts, slopes, poor access etc and more for milling grade.

Last years forestry auction had beech at 115 per cube standing

 

[Y Fan Wen]

Just a note to anyone fortunate enough too have one...
If you have to process a sycamore, fallen or felled, before you cut it up for the fire, try a test piece, a foot off the stump to see how easily it splits. If it does so easily, crack on. If it is reluctant and seems messy it is probably fiddleback sycamore and worth far more as timber than firewood.

 

[renewablejohn]

Depends how you want replanting. If original stumps removed then may be more than original timbers worth.

 

[som farmer]

friend was paid to clear a fallen walnut tree, as doing it, chap approached him re logs, reply, you clear it, and have the fire wood for x amount, chap was delighted, mate returned the original money, and kept the log money, with owners approval. Only 1 thing wrong with that, nobody told the chap, happily logging up, walnut does not burn, it only chars ! and no heat,

 

[farmerm]

Depends how you want replanting. If original stumps removed then may be more than original timbers worth.

how are we all going to get rich planting woodland everywhere when the timber produced is worth less than the cost of replanting it.....

 

[som farmer]

i have planted a fair few trees, odd corners, mainly for game cover, the amount of usable land, i have planted, would be close to zero. If the new system were to encourage planting, in non productive land, many farmers would go for that, whereas big blocks, they wouldn't.

 

[capfits]

You may or may not be surprised to know that Forestry is driving farm land values in parts of Ayrshire and Lanarkshire.
Many more are looking to offset carbon aswell....

 

[Glynh]

Last years forestry auction had beech at 115 per cube standing

Prices were high last winter but that must have been something very special for milling, it's miles off regular prices. You can get beech firewood (or any hardwood) for £50-55 roadside at the moment.

 

[Nithsdale]

i have planted a fair few trees, odd corners, mainly for game cover, the amount of usable land, i have planted, would be close to zero. If the new system were to encourage planting, in non productive land, many farmers would go for that, whereas big blocks, they wouldn't.

There's a lot of forestry going on around me currently on this estate - some hardwood extraction. Lots of the Larch has been notified so is currently being dealt with, along with some routine Spruce blocks getting cleared...

I know the guy on the forwarder and I've spoken to him and the harvester operater quite a lot when they come onto the farm...


Little corners here and there is great for you, but the forestry contractors aren't interested. They want huge blocks. They took 300t off of me in a shelter strip (clearfell of the top 1/3 of the strip) - the boss was moaning it wasn't enough to make the job worth bothering with

 

[Nithsdale]

Just a note to anyone fortunate enough too have one...
If you have to process a sycamore, fallen or felled, before you cut it up for the fire, try a test piece, a foot off the stump to see how easily it splits. If it does so easily, crack on. If it is reluctant and seems messy it is probably fiddleback sycamore and worth far more as timber than firewood.

Sycamore is a great tree. Far more of it should be planted than is

 

[Y Fan Wen]

Sycamore is a great tree. Far more of it should be planted than is

Grey squirrels have stopped that. Not one of our plantings have produced what you could call a tree.

 

[Nithsdale]

Grey squirrels have stopped that. Not one of our plantings have produced what you could call a tree.

Ah. Thankfully don't have that problem in SW Scotland.
Given a chance Sycamore will grow for fun up here - too many people see it as a weed though