Stealing food to solve the food crisis.

holwellcourtfarm

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Livestock Farmer

From today's email newsletter from 'The Conversation'.​

Inflation: the supermarket business model is too fragile to shield customers from rising food prices

Food prices, like almost everything else, are rising fast. There have recently been warnings of “apocalyptic” costs, and a declaration that the “era of cheap food” is over.
Such announcements have been linked to creaking economies trying to recover from the pandemic and the effects of war in Ukraine, one of the world’s largest exporters of food.

But to fully understand why food prices cannot be kept down, and what could be done to help struggling households, we need to look at how our supermarkets actually make money. My research shows that the current system has been balanced on a knife edge for some time.

The fact is that most of the income from selling food with very low margins at very high volumes is swallowed up in overheads such as payroll and the costs of running stores and distribution centres. This has three effects on supermarket economics worth considering the next time you stock up on groceries.

Firstly, supermarkets only make a decent profit if people buy convenience food, treats and non-food items (everything from toilet paper to fuel and clothing). Seven out of the top ten items that bring in the most money for supermarkets fall into the categories of alcohol, snacks and confectionery.

One influential book on the subject argues supermarkets need to ensure – through shop design and promotion – that customers buy at least some higher margi items (regardless of their intention when they enter the store).

Supermarkets also need to be competitive by offering great deals on cheap, bulk, long-life foods such as cereals and pasta, to provide customers with savings which they may then spend on the non-food items and higher margin treats. If there is generally less money in people’s pockets, due to inflation and a cost-of-living crisis, they will be generally less inclined to buy these discretionary (and more profitable) items, making the supermarket less profitable.

From this perspective, the recent controversial announcement that multibuy deals are now not being banned in the UK is in fact good news for the retailers.

Food for thought​

Secondly, food is cheap in supermarkets because they use their bargaining power to get large volume discounts. When Tesco was founded in the early 1960s, consumers benefited because it challenged the previous situation which had favoured the large manufacturers and processors in setting prices.

This lowers prices for shoppers, but severely impacts earnings for the supermarket. And once prices cannot be pushed down any further – with cow’s milk, the price paid to producers is mostly at or below the cost of production – charging suppliers to market and promote their products is one of the few tools available for a supermarket to make money.

Information about this kind of “commercial income” can be found in the notes at the back of retailers’ annual financial reports. I have analysed these, and found that without commercial income, in 2021 very few supermarkets would have made any profit at all.

But there is a limit to bargaining and fee earnings. And when the prices of raw ingredient, fuel, financing and packaging are all rising, supermarkets will have to give way. It is likely they will have to raise prices for customers in order to maintain stocks and keep their 365-day 24-hour model going. Many food producers have already been pushed as low as they can go.

Thirdly, around 80% of the cost of the food we buy is simply the overheads of providing shops, factories, transport, distribution centres and production. If fuel goes up, so does the cost of the infrastructure – and then the cost of groceries.

A related issue is that cheap food is a real benefit for those who have storage, particularly fridge freezers. Shoppers overstocking at home benefits the supermarkets, but we know that around one third of all UK food is wasted. So we end paying more, but end up throwing the food away.

To achieve a fair, sustainable, healthy and affordable food system we need to tackle the overheads and waste to keep costs down. With this aim, some supermarkets are investing in artificial intelligence systems to track and manage food waste more effectively, which in turn should bring better inventory management and forecasting.

That would contribute to less wasted products throughout the entire system.

Shorter supply chains would cut down transportation costs as does reducing the range of products on offer (which is effective but not always popular with consumers). Away from the supermarket shelves, there is research which suggests that the best way to make sure the poorest can afford food is to increase incomes through living wages, universal credit or a universal basic income.

But supermarkets could still play a major role. The current system, which relies on some consumers buying large quantities of food, some of which is unhealthy and some of which will be thrown away, is a model in desperate need of change.


Food for thought for all those on here who repeatedly claim supermarkets are earning huge profits from the products we sell them......
 

Lowland1

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Mixed Farmer
Stealing from a supermarket is easy really compared with other shops. It’s all nicely laid out and the items are usually smallish. Stealing clothes and electrical goods would be much harder likewise you can’t steal a phone contract or electric connection or a mortgage. I think there’s a drive by the Government. They are protecting their friends in the financial sector the people who are really hurting the general public whilst pushing the blame elsewhere. It’s very much it’s not their fault it’s all Putins ( obviously he’s not blameless) . This has been brewing for years really recent events bring it to a head but who would really suffer if a Government told people you have to live within your means probably not the poorest.
 

Yale

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Livestock Farmer
Stealing from a supermarket is easy really compared with other shops. It’s all nicely laid out and the items are usually smallish. Stealing clothes and electrical goods would be much harder likewise you can’t steal a phone contract or electric connection or a mortgage. I think there’s a drive by the Government. They are protecting their friends in the financial sector the people who are really hurting the general public whilst pushing the blame elsewhere. It’s very much it’s not their fault it’s all Putins ( obviously he’s not blameless) . This has been brewing for years really recent events bring it to a head but who would really suffer if a Government told people you have to live within your means probably not the poorest.
I suppose the bottom line is if developing countries improve their standards of living then probably somewhere else standards will fall.

Resources are finite and as far as the UK is concerned if there is more demand for what we take for granted then we are going to have to fight harder financially to secure it.This comes at a cost.
 

Lowland1

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Mixed Farmer
I suppose the bottom line is if developing countries improve their standards of living then probably somewhere else standards will fall.

Resources are finite and as far as the UK is concerned if there is more demand for what we take for granted then we are going to have to fight harder financially to secure it.This comes at a cost.
Not at all. In the third world the first indication of a better standard of living is better food the second would be improved housing and healthcare then you’ve got the fripperies of modern life such as TVs and Telephones then you might get to personal transport. People forget how recently it was that personal cars became the norm. The biggest mistake people make is the belief that you don’t have to work hard to get stuff. There’s a labour shortage and prices are going up so people might not be able to work just their 35 hours a week and maintain their current standards of living. Problem is no Government wants to tell people that.
 

DaveGrohl

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Location
Cumbria
Thirdly, around 80% of the cost of the food we buy is simply the overheads of providing shops, factories, transport, distribution centres and production. If fuel goes up, so does the cost of the infrastructure – and then the cost of groceries.
Good to see that in black and white. Just shows how unimportant what we are paid is in the grand scheme of things.
 

bluebell

Member
thats easy to understand? if you take say just 2 examples, a loaf of bread for one, how much does the wheat cost, make up the retail value that the end consumer pays, for a loaf of bread, second a bag of crisps, how much does the potato value,cost make up the cost of the bag of crisps the consumer pays at retail? both the wheat, and the potato, make up a fraction of the price that the retail customer pays? Makes me cross when the news says bad harvest wheat gone up? if it doubled in price what would the real cost be to the consumer of the loaf of bread or does everyone raise their profit on the back of that?
 

From today's email newsletter from 'The Conversation'.​

Inflation: the supermarket business model is too fragile to shield customers from rising food prices

Food prices, like almost everything else, are rising fast. There have recently been warnings of “apocalyptic” costs, and a declaration that the “era of cheap food” is over.
Such announcements have been linked to creaking economies trying to recover from the pandemic and the effects of war in Ukraine, one of the world’s largest exporters of food.

But to fully understand why food prices cannot be kept down, and what could be done to help struggling households, we need to look at how our supermarkets actually make money. My research shows that the current system has been balanced on a knife edge for some time.

The fact is that most of the income from selling food with very low margins at very high volumes is swallowed up in overheads such as payroll and the costs of running stores and distribution centres. This has three effects on supermarket economics worth considering the next time you stock up on groceries.

Firstly, supermarkets only make a decent profit if people buy convenience food, treats and non-food items (everything from toilet paper to fuel and clothing). Seven out of the top ten items that bring in the most money for supermarkets fall into the categories of alcohol, snacks and confectionery.

One influential book on the subject argues supermarkets need to ensure – through shop design and promotion – that customers buy at least some higher margi items (regardless of their intention when they enter the store).

Supermarkets also need to be competitive by offering great deals on cheap, bulk, long-life foods such as cereals and pasta, to provide customers with savings which they may then spend on the non-food items and higher margin treats. If there is generally less money in people’s pockets, due to inflation and a cost-of-living crisis, they will be generally less inclined to buy these discretionary (and more profitable) items, making the supermarket less profitable.

From this perspective, the recent controversial announcement that multibuy deals are now not being banned in the UK is in fact good news for the retailers.

Food for thought​

Secondly, food is cheap in supermarkets because they use their bargaining power to get large volume discounts. When Tesco was founded in the early 1960s, consumers benefited because it challenged the previous situation which had favoured the large manufacturers and processors in setting prices.

This lowers prices for shoppers, but severely impacts earnings for the supermarket. And once prices cannot be pushed down any further – with cow’s milk, the price paid to producers is mostly at or below the cost of production – charging suppliers to market and promote their products is one of the few tools available for a supermarket to make money.

Information about this kind of “commercial income” can be found in the notes at the back of retailers’ annual financial reports. I have analysed these, and found that without commercial income, in 2021 very few supermarkets would have made any profit at all.

But there is a limit to bargaining and fee earnings. And when the prices of raw ingredient, fuel, financing and packaging are all rising, supermarkets will have to give way. It is likely they will have to raise prices for customers in order to maintain stocks and keep their 365-day 24-hour model going. Many food producers have already been pushed as low as they can go.

Thirdly, around 80% of the cost of the food we buy is simply the overheads of providing shops, factories, transport, distribution centres and production. If fuel goes up, so does the cost of the infrastructure – and then the cost of groceries.

A related issue is that cheap food is a real benefit for those who have storage, particularly fridge freezers. Shoppers overstocking at home benefits the supermarkets, but we know that around one third of all UK food is wasted. So we end paying more, but end up throwing the food away.

To achieve a fair, sustainable, healthy and affordable food system we need to tackle the overheads and waste to keep costs down. With this aim, some supermarkets are investing in artificial intelligence systems to track and manage food waste more effectively, which in turn should bring better inventory management and forecasting.

That would contribute to less wasted products throughout the entire system.

Shorter supply chains would cut down transportation costs as does reducing the range of products on offer (which is effective but not always popular with consumers). Away from the supermarket shelves, there is research which suggests that the best way to make sure the poorest can afford food is to increase incomes through living wages, universal credit or a universal basic income.

But supermarkets could still play a major role. The current system, which relies on some consumers buying large quantities of food, some of which is unhealthy and some of which will be thrown away, is a model in desperate need of change.


Food for thought for all those on here who repeatedly claim supermarkets are earning huge profits from the products we sell them......
The problem is the UBI creates a disincentive to work, the old can't get people capable to do certain jobs yet there's a percentage of people "unemployed".
After 2 or 3 generations then they feel entitled "not to work".
 

Ffermer Bach

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Livestock Farmer
If I finance something for the farm I have to supply my accounts and my bank statements etc. When I wanted to get phone contracts for my children I couldn’t because I didn’t have a credit rating because I hadn’t ever borrowed anything personally. You do wonder if there’s a plan afoot to saddle the poorest with debts they can never clear.
people who are worried about repaying their debt aren't likely to tip over the apple cart, too busy trying to make ends meet
 

Poorbuthappy

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Devon
Not at all. In the third world the first indication of a better standard of living is better food the second would be improved housing and healthcare then you’ve got the fripperies of modern life such as TVs and Telephones then you might get to personal transport. People forget how recently it was that personal cars became the norm. The biggest mistake people make is the belief that you don’t have to work hard to get stuff. There’s a labour shortage and prices are going up so people might not be able to work just their 35 hours a week and maintain their current standards of living. Problem is no Government wants to tell people that.
Think some minister did suggest that and got shouted down / vilified for being out of touch with the poorer members of society.
 

Lowland1

Member
Mixed Farmer
thats easy to understand? if you take say just 2 examples, a loaf of bread for one, how much does the wheat cost, make up the retail value that the end consumer pays, for a loaf of bread, second a bag of crisps, how much does the potato value,cost make up the cost of the bag of crisps the consumer pays at retail? both the wheat, and the potato, make up a fraction of the price that the retail customer pays? Makes me cross when the news says bad harvest wheat gone up? if it doubled in price what would the real cost be to the consumer of the loaf of bread or does everyone raise their profit on the back of that?
There was a young farmers group somewhere in the American Midwest who when bread reached a dollar a loaf offered to exchange bread wrappers for the value of the wheat in the loaf there was nearly a riot when people found out they were only getting 11 cents back.
With crisps potatoes are the fourth most expensive part of a packet of crisps after the oil, favouring, packaging and possibility the air they put in the pack's.
 

glasshouse

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Location
lothians
The
A worthwhile and thought provoking read in the context of this thread. How does farming in the UK stand on the social licence point?

The social contract hardly exists anymore.
Banks were given free reign to exploit as they please, landlords can charge as much rent as they like.
Supermarkets put farmers out of business and nobody cares.
 

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