Stock fence suppliers

[andybk]

Got about 12 acres to fence , any recommendations for stock net suppliers ,will need about a pallet (16 rolls plus) half wondered about clipex but see posts are about £7+ these days , about 800-1000m , will use sleepers or 6" in corners

 

[Bury the Trash]

16 plus would be 1600metres plus of wire ? 100 m rolls at least
Mvf and estate wire is ax good a deal as any.

Recently weve put up clippex at 6m apart against hedges. Using ex railway concrete posts for turns or some times strainers .either bored with hyd earth drill or dug in with narrow bucket
The clipex goes in easy with our not heavy weight knocker and sds max drilled pilot hole into shale at some places.
I dont trust wood anylonger and in dry ground they are hard often to get in plumb and slower than clipex, especially at 5 to 6 m space ..even without the lack of stapling taken into account.

 

[andybk]

16 plus would be 1600metres plus of wire ? 100 m rolls at least
Mvf and estate wire is ax good a deal as any.

Recently weve put up clippex at 6m apart against hedges. Using ex railway concrete posts for turns or some times strainers .either bored with hyd earth drill or dug in with narrow bucket
The clipex goes in easy with our not heavy weight knocker and sds max drilled pilot hole into shale at some places.
I dont trust wood anylonger and in dry ground they are hard often to get in plumb and slower than clipex, especially at 5 to 6 m space ..even without the lack of stapling taken into account.

you recon 6m spacing is enough on clipex , presume thats tensile fence ?

 

[Bury the Trash]

you recon 6m spacing is enough on clipex , presume thats tensile fence ?

It's fine atm .
Yeah always use ht. And 8 80 30
Well it will grow in over time anyway.
Also The success of a stockfence is mainly governed by how well the strainers are set.

Mvf have been stocking 300 m rolls which although not much cheaper are useful as they can save a join or 2 in a long run.
On clipex We do One net and 2 plain 2.5mm ht top wires but remember those top ones will test your strainers.

 

[sheepman1]

It's fine atm .
Yeah always use ht. And 8 80 30
Well it will grow in over time anyway.
Also The success of a stockfence is mainly governed by how well the strainers are set.

Mvf have been stocking 300 m rolls which although not much cheaper are useful as they can save a join or 2 in a long run.
On clipex We do One net and 2 plain 2.5mm ht top wires but remember those top ones will test your strainers.

What size clipex is that?

 

[andybk]

just drove around it today , hedges are very good and thick and its well fenced for cattle , most posts are good inc strainers recon i could clipex intermediates reuse strainers and leave top strand of barb on original fence , so stock fence in front of whats there as hedges are good and let it all grow in , keep trimmer out a bit on sides for a few years all fairly flat and easy to get at all of it .

 

[Bury the Trash]

What size clipex is that?

The Eco posts they fit ordinary wire
with the 30 cm spacing we find you can pretty much always clip the wires on without hassle from verticals if you bang the posts in first. as theres more 'give' than narrower spacing

 

[Steevo]

Tornado wire seems popular.

 

[Bury the Trash]

just drove around it today , hedges are very good and thick and its well fenced for cattle , most posts are good inc strainers recon i could clipex intermediates reuse strainers and leave top strand of barb on original fence , so stock fence in front of whats there as hedges are good and let it all grow in , keep trimmer out a bit on sides for a few years all fairly flat and easy to get at all of it .

clipex are ideal for 'stitching ' in we find. hooks the wire up nicely without holding it and banging a staple type hassle

our knocker will work over a net for clipex its better to not have a post holder just the weight hitting the top of the post directly if you carefull and it goes in easy you dont even need a cap tube to protect the top. as well as you can move the post about by hand to get it upright.in the early stages.

 

[serf]

just drove around it today , hedges are very good and thick and its well fenced for cattle , most posts are good inc strainers recon i could clipex intermediates reuse strainers and leave top strand of barb on original fence , so stock fence in front of whats there as hedges are good and let it all grow in , keep trimmer out a bit on sides for a few years all fairly flat and easy to get at all of it .

If you are going to add to existing post and wire , and let it grow thru you could use the light / medium gauge wire

 

[andybk]

If you are going to add to existing post and wire , and let it grow thru you could use the light / medium gauge wire

would stretching be an issue down the line , presume not HT

 

[serf]

would stretching be an issue down the line , presume not HT

Would have to carefully pull light , but medium would pull up more , non HT . If its going to be grown thru cant see point of going to the expense of tornado HT , when light / medium, would serve the purpose , and a lot easier to work with , HT Is good on clean runs that are exposed to stock all the time , IMO

 

[neilo]

HT wire won’t stretch over time though, or nowhere near as much as medium wire, and you can space posts further apart.

I only use HT8-80-22 wire, so it stays tight, sheep don’t get their heads stuck and nothing gets out. The last two pallets (12x100m rolls @andybk ) have been Tornado Torus, which has solid upright wires to keep it upright better like X-fence does.

The strength of the fence is down to maintaining the tension, which is down to good strainers that don’t move. The intermediate posts just keep it standing upright, so it makes no difference if they are steel or wood, spacing is the same. The makers claim you can space metal out more just to try to make it stack up financially, but if you can go 5-6m, wooden posts will do exactly the same job. They won’t last as long (although have Clippex been tested to 30 years plus yet?) unless they are properly creosote posts though.

 

[Bury the Trash]

Were putting wood if we do use it in at 4m spacing anyway against a hedge. The straining posts get most of the attention, wire them back to something as well as strut.

Use gripples to finish the strain then they can be used to tighten up the fence in the future.

Clipex is more ameanable to this than stapled wood as you can even unhook them if needed.

As said above were fencing now without using a staple or a hammer.

Clipex are easier to put and be done by hand where the tractor wont go.which especially useful for stitching in we find. Just predrill in hard ground with a 25mm sds max then use a sledge with a protector on the post.

better to Compare height of 6' stakes to a clipex post rather 5'6" 's

 

[HarryB97]

X fence from McVeigh is hard to beat, I’ve always found Tornado harder to work with and tie off. A few quid more a metre is nothing over the lifetime of a fence!

 

[Bury the Trash]

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Just putting stockfence up even without top wires against a gappy hedge will completely stop sheep breaking. The respect they have over it rather than some pita to maintain electric set up ( even modern stuff) is like a great sigh of relief to the sheep keeper.

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[neilo]

X fence from McVeigh is hard to beat, I’ve always found Tornado harder to work with and tie off. A few quid more a metre is nothing over the lifetime of a fence!

The Tornado Torus wire I mentioned is the same design as the X-Fence, but slightly cheaper. Usually has to be ordered in though, as most suppliers only stock normal HT as it's a couple of quid less.

 

[Y Fan Wen]

Got about 12 acres to fence , any recommendations for stock net suppliers ,will need about a pallet (16 rolls plus) half wondered about clipex but see posts are about £7+ these days , about 800-1000m , will use sleepers or 6" in corners

McVeigh Parker offer fencing kits which are keenly priced;

Triple X 1000m Lamb Friendly Fence Kit

1000m of 1.08m overall lamb friendly stock fencing Includes award winning Clipex® steel posts 50% quicker to erect, 50% cheaper & lasts over 30 years*

mcveighparker.com

I bought one of these when I had 800m of common boundary to renew.
Pleased with it and the contractor was happy, after looking askance at it at first. It was the first he had seen.

 

[andybk]

McVeigh Parker offer fencing kits which are keenly priced;

Triple X 1000m Lamb Friendly Fence Kit

1000m of 1.08m overall lamb friendly stock fencing Includes award winning Clipex® steel posts 50% quicker to erect, 50% cheaper & lasts over 30 years*

mcveighparker.com

I bought one of these when I had 800m of common boundary to renew.
Pleased with it and the contractor was happy, after looking askance at it at first. It was the first he had seen.

quick recon , would be around half that , 800m =140 i/m posts = £1120ish @£8 post , fence £1 / m £800 say £1000 , (there are gateposts in most centre of boundary hedges as strainers ) otherwise will use sleepers / tele poles (in stock) , Like for like in length £1120 for posts and £1000 for fence
Clippex special price nearly £4000! not much saving there

sort of thinking £8 is a bit overcooked in price for posts , ( i know they are good but ........) £5 or 6 maybe

edit : £6.62 for posts ex vat (could prob get away with eco posts @ £5.47 )

anyone have price for versalok posts ?

 

[Bury the Trash]

Another advantage of 8 80 30 is less weight. Thus Straining is more efficient and strainers can be further apart.

That wire I posted above gets the weight ,strength life combination right we find, plus if you catch it with the trimmer or the back furrow of the plough it s not so bad damaged as that fancy wire can be,