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stopping prolapsed sheep straining

EJS

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Ashford, Kent
Did it pee when you put it back in if they do I find they stop
yup - definitely wont stop straining if ureter twisted or caught in prolapse. If she has weed then are you sure she hasn't got a dead lamb - will know pretty quick if she has, they can keep trying to get rid of it despite not opening up properly.
 

Guiggs

Member
Location
Leicestershire
Never managed to get on with spoons and threw them on the bonfire years ago. Always seem to irritate rather than help, IME. I either use a webbing harness, or one made of twine.

@Guiggs , they don't get many chances with me either, but I don't expect them to need too many. Just cull ewe price surely makes them worth a bit of effort? If you end up rearing lambs artificially for £50 a pop, even more reason.

I'm sure your right Neil but I had a bad experience last year with prolapses after taking some poor advice! I lost a lot of good ewes,some died within a couple of hours some within days after having massive prolapses. Nothing we did could help them,it was the most soul destroying thing I've ever experienced and I'm not prepared to go through it again!
I work off the farm as well so can't give them as much attention as they need and I'm not the most patient person in the world, come to think about it I probably shouldn't have anything to do with sheep full stop!
 

Penmoel

Member
We had huge problems with prolapse a few years ago, spoons , stitches and harness, ewes were dying 3 to 4 days later.

We had not vaccinated for clostridial for years , our vet suggested we use Bravoxin 10 as the ewes appeared to have some kind of clostridial infection which that drug would hit that heptavac would not, have used bravoxin 10 since. As a physical restraint now find the harness is best, they will lamb through it fine.
 

beaconsboy

Member
Location
south powys
So are you saying you vaccinated for clostridail. And that help with less prolapse s or did it keep the ones that prolapsed alive. Did you do the hole bunch or just the ones that done it.
 

andybk

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Mendips Somerset
never had any problems with spoons myself ,catch them early soon as you see anything that doesnt look right , then tie balertwine around belly in front the udder fairly tight and tie spoon in well to that ,no good tying to wool at all , will lamb with them in , then mark as a cull after lambs reared
 

neilo

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Montgomeryshire
never had any problems with spoons myself ,catch them early soon as you see anything that doesnt look right , then tie balertwine around belly in front the udder fairly tight and tie spoon in well to that ,no good tying to wool at all , will lamb with them in , then mark as a cull after lambs reared

I think that pressure round the belly is the key to stopping the straining, whether it's string or a harness.(y)
 

Penmoel

Member
So are you saying you vaccinated for clostridail. And that help with less prolapse s or did it keep the ones that prolapsed alive. Did you do the hole bunch or just the ones that done it.

Not sure that it has helped with the prolapse but we appear to have less prolapses now than before, those that do don't generally die now like they did that year. We now vaccinate all the flock with B10
 

Wooly

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Romney Marsh
In the past we have used a couple of tags rather than stitches, for the rare ewe that wants to keep pushing her prolapse out after lambing.


Spoons before lambing, tied to the long wool that our Romneys produce! Can't do that with those hairless wonders!!;)
Prolapsed ewes are always culled.
 

jonny

Member
Location
leitrim
Normally stitch them with suture tape, shot of antibiotic, once you get them early there's rarely any problems. Never use spoons makes them press more , the ram is the only thing that should go in there.
 

EJS

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Ashford, Kent
I have had 3 so far with suff/mules, started lambing couple of days ago, admittedly one was prolapse tagged for culling last year and lost her cull tag (keep meaning to move to notching), couldn't be bothered to manually read 120 tags to find her - am paying price now. One died after having prolapse and 2 dead lambs, other two are fine but will be culled - would hope not to see more than 1 or 2 out of 150 lambing
 

flockeye

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
somerset
I find the only way to stop a ewe straining is to give her an epidural by injecting her in the spine with just lignal or lignal and rompan. The only trouble is when she is paralysed her lambs are unable to suck so I have before now cradled her up.
 

Downton_shep

Member
Location
Leintwardine
I find the only way to stop a ewe straining is to give her an epidural by injecting her in the spine with just lignal or lignal and rompan. The only trouble is when she is paralysed her lambs are unable to suck so I have before now cradled her up.
worked with someone that used to do this in the under side at the top of the tail. He used to swear by it.
It never paralysed them though.
 

Treacle Sponge

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Yorkshire
We stitched one in a hogg this morning - the vet once showed OT how to turn the lamb bed as you push it back in and we have had much more success since then. We use the turning over crate to hold her steady, keep everything clean with warm water and use plenty of lamb lube. We finish off with a circle of big stitches, a good dose of pen/strep and a prayer.
Disaster. She pushed everything out again this morning and we had to do the only decent thing for her. Just going out now to feed her lamb. :(
 

Cooper3075

Member
Location
North Derbyshire
Got a ewe prolapsed other day used spoons normally any not had one fail this ewe has scaned for triplets and is a couple if weeks off lambing spoon keeps comeing out as she keeps pushing and her wool keeps pulling out easy last night put 2 spoons in this morning both pulling out wool again so until I can get to buy a harness tomorrow I has a idea put a tip harness on her and tied the spoon to that. She still manages to push a little bit out past it when laid down! Get her up and it pops back in after 30 seconds or so
 

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