Store cattle prices

[devonshire farmer]

I don't recall saying that sucklers don't pay but I don't think that I will get rich out off them, beef breed stores do not make mental money or any such thing
you boys should charge more for your fat cattle or get out the kitchen

Wasn't getting at posters on this thread in particular but been many on here in the past about the viability of sucklers though!

 

[gone up the hill]

so if you want quality you got to pay for it

My point was that the older type Fri cattle still made usefull beef animals, but the above cattle aren't much good for anything ( esp when VIA grading comes in )

 

[gone up the hill]

Wasn't getting at posters on this thread in particular but been many on here in the past about the viability of sucklers though!

With the current stirk prices, any suckler farmer with half decent cows and does the calves okay ought to be making a few bob..

 

[devonshire farmer]

With the current stirk prices, any suckler farmer with half decent cows and does the calves okay ought to be making a few bob..

Think we would of sold some if weren't shut down with tb

 

[Henarar]

With the current stirk prices, any suckler farmer with half decent cows and does the calves okay ought to be making a few bob..

and why shouldn't they ?

 

[gone up the hill]

Think we would of sold some if weren't shut down with tb

TB is the main cause in the SW for suckler cow numbers dropping and your post is a classic example of why that is the case!

 

[gone up the hill]

and why shouldn't they ?

I didn't say they shouldn't be making a few bob, my point is that unless the fat price rises sharply the current store prices are totally unsustainable..

 

[Henarar]

TB is the main cause in the SW for suckler cow numbers dropping and your post is a classic example of why that is the case!

yea about right, we will be f**ked when we get it here
but what can you do its caused by government incompetence nothing else

 

[Clear as Mud]

The margin on buying a 220 kg steer for £700 for fattening must be doubtful unless it grows like hell, finishes within 12months and kills out a good U grade. Theses prices are good for rearers and the suckler boys and the only good thing at the moment for the finisher is the low value in grain, straw,fodder and the stronger current Dw price. Horses for courses.

 

[Henarar]

I didn't say they shouldn't be making a few bob, my point is that unless the fat price rises sharply the current store prices are totally unsustainable..

so perhaps its the fat price that is unsustainable, that's more like it food is to cheap

 

[Haydn Lloyd]

Stores exactly where they should be, you can't replace heifers very cheap nowadays, fat buyers had it too good when stores where down

 

[M-J-G]

Keep the fodder until next winter, it will be needed!!

Which year was it that there was bumper harvest of maize??, yields hit the roof, next year/ ( or the one after ) yields were thru the floor... all that maize was badly needed..

As will be the case with all this years excess fodder.. was only 10 months ago round bale silage was making £30/35/ bale don't forget..

Well said!!!

 

[gone up the hill]

so perhaps its the fat price that is unsustainable, that's more like it food is to cheap

I would agree with that.. fat price needs to be £4.50 average and then the current high store price would ( rightly ) be sustainable..

 

[Henarar]

I would agree with that.. fat price needs to be £4.50 average and then the current high store price would ( rightly ) be sustainable..

thank you
I will have the same conversation next time I go to market always do when the store price goes up a bit

 

[Crex]

My point was that the older type Fri cattle still made usefull beef animals, but the above cattle aren't much good for anything ( esp when VIA grading comes in )

Why will VIA grading affect things for those cattle?

 

[Henarar]

may go and see what the fodder is not making on Sat

 

[gone up the hill]

Why will VIA grading affect things for those cattle?

Not sure on the technical details but at plants in NI already using it the results show that poorer grade cattle ( ie :extreme/ small grade Dairy stuff ) is at least a grade down on average but the better bred stuff will be the same or sometimes one grade better..

 

[Sandy]

Not sure on the technical details but at plants in NI already using it the results show that poorer grade cattle ( ie :extreme/ small grade Dairy stuff ) is at least a grade down on average but the better bred stuff will be the same or sometimes one grade better..

That's what I've been told by the Scottish plant using it what were O grades are now P grades but the continentals that were R are grading R+ which is 6p more

 

[Blaithin]

Reading the thread hasn't helped so I need some clarification.

What do you mean by store cattle?

 

[PFH]

Reading the thread hasn't helped so I need some clarification.

What do you mean by store cattle?

Stocker/feeder cattle