Straw market analysis.

[Henarar]

Drove past where we get our straw today and from what I could see the crops look good
But as ever time Will tell
Nart avent seen afore

 

[glasshouse]

I certainly will never forget the auction in november when you could have heard a pin drop and the 4x4hay made £45 per bale and 4x4 straw £33 !

 

[d williams]

I certainly will never forget the auction in november when you could have heard a pin drop and the 4x4hay made £45 per bale and 4x4 straw £33 !

That don't seem that dear if their 4x4 squares at 500kgs

 

[Happy]

That don't seem that dear if their 4x4 squares at 500kgs

True, but up here they were far more likely to have been round and 200kg.

 

[willy]

Not a hope in hell of it being that expensive off the field.

Because that would put it delivered on farm at £130t and at that money farmers will not buy more than the odd load and wait until the winter to buy the rest.

£130t is totally unsustainable for livestock producers.

Yes and £40 per tonne baled off the field is unsustainable for arable farmers, so for the last 5 years while straw traders and end users have bagged it of us, it in turn has bitten many on the arse, £55 tonne baled off the field is where it needs to be minimum.

 

[RAF]

There is a hell of a lot of straw chopped though tbf

 

[glasshouse]

That don't seem that dear if their 4x4 squares at 500kgs

4x4 rounds at 250kg each

 

[gone up the hill]

if they wait while winter it may not be there (see above) despite your opinion that crops look well. In other areas things are different in terms of growth stage and straw potential yield which is now apparent at least here .though as yet grain yield is still all to play for

People wont pay stupid money for it off the field for various reasons.

Prices of £100t+ for straw is just not viable for livestock farmers in the long term.

 

[gone up the hill]

Yes and £40 per tonne baled off the field is unsustainable for arable farmers, so for the last 5 years while straw traders and end users have bagged it of us, it in turn has bitten many on the arse, £55 tonne baled off the field is where it needs to be minimum.

Yea I would agree with you @willy that it needs to be £55/60t ex field, imo that would be a workable and sustainable price for both seller and buyer.

( would put straw at £85/90t delivered in price )

 

[An Gof]

Yea I would agree with you @willy that it needs to be £55/60t ex field, imo that would be a workable and sustainable price for both seller and buyer.

( would put straw at £85/90t delivered in price )

If you’re in a wet area like the SW £60/t ex field isn’t enough for all the hassle you get with rain after cutting and then having to turn straw and not being able to clear the ground in time.

 

[Henarar]

If you’re in a wet area like the SW £60/t ex field isn’t enough for all the hassle you get with rain after cutting and then having to turn straw and not being able to clear the ground in time.

No need to wait for rain just get on and bale it

 

[An Gof]

No need to wait for rain just get on and bale it

I wouldn’t give up your day job to become a comedian.

 

[Henarar]

I wouldn’t give up your day job to become a comedian.

you wouldn't give up my day job, that's a silly statement as you haven't got my day job
don't you think you would make a very good comedian then ?

 

[An Gof]

You are indeed correct, i should have been more thoughtful in my reply and instead i should have said Don't give up your day job to become a comedian.

 

[Henarar]

You are indeed correct, i should have been more thoughtful in my reply and instead i should have said Don't give up your day job to become a comedian.

ok but what has this got to do with getting on with it and baling up straw before it rains ?
are you just trolling ?

 

[gone up the hill]

No need to wait for rain just get on and bale it

Not always possible for a whole host of different and unconnected reasons why you cannot always bale behind the combine.

 

[gone up the hill]

If you’re in a wet area like the SW £60/t ex field isn’t enough for all the hassle you get with rain after cutting and then having to turn straw and not being able to clear the ground in time.

In a normal year £60t is all its worth ex field

Thus why in our part of the country most farmers that sell straw sell it as standing crop and not baled.

 

[CORK]

Not always possible for a whole host of different and unconnected reasons why you cannot always bale behind the combine.

Beat me to it!

 

[Henarar]

Not always possible for a whole host of different and unconnected reasons why you cannot always bale behind the combine.

I seem to manage about 90% of the time

 

[4course]

People wont pay stupid money for it off the field for various reasons.

Prices of £100t+ for straw is just not viable for livestock farmers in the long term.

people i.e the arable chaps wont let it go for stupid money if they have done their sums re the costs of removing straw which are more than it seems to some folks