Straw market analysis.

[Brisel]

Straw worth more than the grain, @gone up the hill ?

Some basic sums. Spring barley yield 2.5 t/ac assuming it doesn't make malting is £120/t or £300/acre. Straw wasn't fetching that in any of the threads in TFF

 

[gone up the hill]

Nor will the sellers be in the market come Jan/Feb.

Always straw about if you know where to look

 

[gone up the hill]

Straw worth more than the grain, @gone up the hill ?

Some basic sums. Spring barley yield 2.5 t/ac assuming it doesn't make malting is £120/t or £300/acre. Straw wasn't fetching that in any of the threads in TFF

I was working on a per ton basis and not per acre!

 

[B'o'B]

Always straw about if you know where to look

But only available at the right price.

 

[Henarar]

Always straw about if you know where to look

yea no problem got plenty in the shed


























for me

 

[Henarar]

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1535992979801639&set=gm.1476064452469393&type=3
some here

 

[gone up the hill]

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1535992979801639&set=gm.1476064452469393&type=3
some here

Must be damp to wrap it?

 

[bobk]

Turning customers away , demand is mental .

 

[Sonoftheheir]

I honestly think this is the worst year for straw yield I can remember here. Probably 2 round bales an acre down on average.

 

[cattleman123]

Guth...despite what you say..straw is very short this year Barley straw will be 115 ton in Jan..spoke to a large straw merchant today, he said he is 60 load short at moment..your totally wrong

 

[Mark C]

I think it's a double whammy hangover from last year.
Glut at harvest and a dry August meant lots got baled and people cutting their own throats on Price along the M4 corridor to get huge stacks shifted. Further east farmers got pee'd off with no wagons coming across as naturally it was cheaper for them to shift the stuff nearer the target market.
This year there seemed little point in going and buying standing straw again before to potentially being faced with the same problem. Couple that with low yields , poor quality and a very catchy harvest and you have the perfect storm.

We have baled only just over 1/2 of what we normally do. Mainly for our own stock and sell a bit in the spring to help cover the cost of running the baler.

 

[DRC]

I was going to buy some cattle for winter, but might be better just selling the straw

 

[Henarar]

Must be damp to wrap it?

you want it very dry to wrap it

 

[4course]

Straw worth more than the grain, @gone up the hill ?

Some basic sums. Spring barley yield 2.5 t/ac assuming it doesn't make malting is £120/t or £300/acre. Straw wasn't fetching that in any of the threads in TFF

wheat straw baled into little bales @ 110/acre at 15 kg each selling at £3/bale to the horse trade adds up, just a shame we didnt have the time or man power to do a lot more than 25 acres. When we run out which we will at the rate they are going im considering rebaling some of the stored big bales in the winter that would make an indoor stored round over £50 x 7/acre its a better proposition than a lot for increasing output using existing men and machines

 

[gone up the hill]

Guth...despite what you say..straw is very short this year Barley straw will be 115 ton in Jan..spoke to a large straw merchant today, he said he is 60 load short at moment..your totally wrong

I know which merchant you chatted to!

His is the only company around here that I have hardly seen on the roads hauling straw all summer, where as all the other local boys have been flat out all season!

He could be 60 loads done for a combination of reasons, from poor yields/ bought less to a LOT more people ordering early which the last seems to be the case this year.

 

[D14]

Had two merchants on the dog and bone yesterday and both are panicked. £70/tonne ex farm pre Christmas and more after so my prediction earlier in the thread of £80 was not far off except I thought it would be that post Christmas. £100 come March!. Both said normal suppliers either haven’t got anything to sell or have now shut the doors for price rises. But the general consensus there isn’t any straw quantity so the livestock boys are going to have to go to their alternatives, whatever that may be, when it gets to expensive for bedding.
I was even quoted for last years linseed and bean straw it’s that desperate. Think I’ll sit on wheat/barley straw.

 

[ridger]

Few English loads came this direction (northern ireland) the farmers must think the Irish are stupid, who wants straw that was baled wet and is all musty and hard? Kinda feel for the merchant who had to take it back though

 

[Surgery]

More worried about getting payed , the old favourite merchants phrases of ' a lot of stock farmers cannot afford to pay me so I cannot pay you yet' or I ' I am owed a lot of money so will pay you when that comes in'

If I cannot afford something I don't have it , don't pee me about chasing to get payed.

If it's too much money don't phone me for it , it will be pay up straight away this year or do one.

 

[D14]

More worried about getting payed , the old favourite merchants phrases of ' a lot of stock farmers cannot afford to pay me so I cannot pay you yet' or I ' I am owed a lot of money so will pay you when that comes in'

If I cannot afford something I don't have it , don't pee me about chasing to get payed.

If it's too much money don't phone me for it , it will be pay up straight away this year or do one.

I told them both yesterday if I sell any it’s payment before collection only to which they both said fine!

 

[4course]

farm sale yesterday ,report was round barley stored outside a bit of waste but less than say5% not particularly heavy would be 4 to the ton at best £14.5 so equates to@ £60 ex farm before loading