Stubble Height In Strip Till

[green giant]

Probably been spoken about in the past what's everyone's thoughts on stubble height when chopping in a strip till system??

 

[Honeybadger]

As high as the combine can cut.

 

[Honeybadger]

If it's a stock farm as low as the combine can cut.

 

[Feldspar]

As high as the combine can cut.

For purely arable where you aren't baling then same as above.

 

[green giant]

For purely arable where you aren't baling then same as above.

Without sounding thick, 3 reasons?

 

[Clive]

Without sounding thick, 3 reasons?

http://thefarmingforum.co.uk/index.php?threads/the-two-simons-theory.22172/page-3#post-411218

 

[Feldspar]

Without sounding thick, 3 reasons?

Wot Clive said, slugs, reduced drill blockages, less work for combine, less nitrogren lock up as straw decomposes over longer time, better residue distribution (unless your combine straw spreader is a lot better than ours) and very slightly keeps pigeons off more in OSR.

 

[Honeybadger]

More output out of the combine

Less fuel used by the combine

Less wear on the chopper blades

Also on occasion can be up to 1% dryer by not putting the wet straw through the combine

Most strip till drills will cope so why not.

Also leaving the stubble connected to the roots keeps it out of the way of the tilled area better.

 

[SorenIlsoe]

I do not believe any tine drills can do this properly. It will result in lumbs and a terrible landscape with large differences in germination. They pull stubble together. Narrow tines can perhaps help for better results?
Except from one situation: drilling between the stubble rows with RTK GPS and narrow tines like seed- hawk and John Dale drill types.
On the other hand i will say that this is the solution for the pure no-distubance disc drills! They can operate better in high stubble because the hair pinning problem is eliminated in situations with a lot of straw at high grain yields.

 

[Feldspar]

I do not believe any tine drills can do this properly. It will result in lumbs and a terrible landscape with large differences in germination. They pull stubble together. Narrow tines can perhaps help for better results?
Except from one situation: drilling between the stubble rows with RTK GPS and narrow tines like seed- hawk and John Dale drill types.
On the other hand i will say that this is the solution for the pure no-distubance disc drills! They can operate better in high stubble because the hair pinning problem is eliminated in situations with a lot of straw at high grain yields.

I have found that the Mzuri manages very well in this situation with excellent ability to deal with trash long or short.

 

[SorenIlsoe]

I have found that the Mzuri manages very well in this situation with excellent ability to deal with trash long or short.

Sounds great. Photos?

 

[Feldspar]

Sounds great. Photos?

I haven't got anything that demonstrates performance in tall stubble. This is in much shorter stubble:

 

[Hartwig]

I have found that the Mzuri manages very well in this situation with excellent ability to deal with trash long or short.

Does the machine have cutting discs in front of the tines then ??

 

[SilliamWhale]

I do not believe any tine drills can do this properly. It will result in lumbs and a terrible landscape with large differences in germination. They pull stubble together. Narrow tines can perhaps help for better results?
Except from one situation: drilling between the stubble rows with RTK GPS and narrow tines like seed- hawk and John Dale drill types.
On the other hand i will say that this is the solution for the pure no-distubance disc drills! They can operate better in high stubble because the hair pinning problem is eliminated in situations with a lot of straw at high grain yields.

I think as a rule of thumb you would be right. I'd say not too much taller than the width between the tines would be ideal. Definitely risking it if the stubble is twice as long as the gap between the tines.

Because I sell straw and I my father goes beserk if I try to cut higher we tend to still cut low but in an ideal world I'd cut at about 12" or as high as possible if chopping straw with a disc drill.

 

[Feldspar]

Does the machine have cutting discs in front of the tines then ??

I think they do offer cutting discs in front of the front legs, but our drill doesn't have them. The front legs seem to sweep a clear path for the rear coulters, and the press wheels sort of tread trash down to stop it bunching up in the machine.

 

[normandyfarmer]

I think as a rule of thumb you would be right. I'd say not too much taller than the width between the tines would be ideal. Definitely risking it if the stubble is twice as long as the gap between the tines.

Because I sell straw and I my father goes beserk if I try to cut higher we tend to still cut low but in an ideal world I'd cut at about 12" or as high as possible if chopping straw with a disc drill.

I totally agree.

For a "real" strip-till machine I say no higher than the trash wheel so they can push the straw between the rows