Sumo DTS pictures / videos in the wet?

[JCfarmer]

MDA, thanks for the demo of the 3m DTS last week in rather sticky conditions. Looking forward to the results, will be monitoring closely. Best get my arse in to gear on posting photos. Thanks again.

 

[Worsall]

Yes in damp trash Andrew

Had a demo this year, and very pleased with the results to date, great build and enthusiastic/knowledgeable sales team. My only concern at present is row width and yield, with land that doesn't support high tillering, but does have brome and blackgrass. I know you planted quite a lot last spring with the DTS, how was the yield?

 

[Johndeere]

Last spring our soil was not in the best condition after 2012, barley which went into good free draining soil yielded just as well as when we were mintilling. On heavy wet slumped cold soil it didn't yield so well but that was more to do with the conditions than the drill. All crops look fantastic this autumn and your more than welcome to view them or give me a ring if you want to know more

 

[Johndeere]

Been drilling some wheat into sticky conditions this week. People ask me how a dts copes, well all I can say is as long as the covering discs are kept clean everything passes through fine, I get the mud off the discs as I check the coulters.

 

[155tm]

@Johndeere I went to see a friend demoing a DTS yesterday. He hasn't done it yet but has worked out if he puts the disc on the outside of the angle bracket (means taking the disc off the bearing & will take more than 5 mins) the current tight spot that blocks the covering disc will be done away with completely. New drills will also come with scalloped discs.

Good luck!

 

[Richard Budd]

Our drill has the new scalloped discs on it, they work very well. The original smooth circular discs did have a habit of the soil building up on one side of the disc and to stop rotating in wet conditions. All the new drills come with the disc on the outside of the angled bracket.

155tm - what was he drilling did it go well???

 

[155tm]

@Richard Budd winter wheat. Went well out in the open, bit sticky over the bank and under the trees :-/

 

[Johndeere]

Our drill has the new scalloped discs on it, they work very well. The original smooth circular discs did have a habit of the soil building up on one side of the disc and to stop rotating in wet conditions. All the new drills come with the disc on the outside of the angled bracket.

155tm - what was he drilling did it go well???

Think I might be tapping them up for the better discs then @MDA

 

[Johndeere]

Dts planted wheat in early December @ 200kgs/ha

 

[Oscar]

JohnDeere, are those photos above the ground you drilled when you posted somewhere [here or on your facebook site] with the drill / wheels covered in mud ??If so then that is remarkable!!
Also if you dont mind, as probably one of the first users of the DTS, looking back or with more experience what would do different if any thing, ie more raking /rolling or any other advise please. If you don t want to air in public then a PM . Thanks Oscar

PPS, I wish ALL companies would post the resulting crops as well as the actual drilling because just showing a drill making lines in the ground does nt prove very much !!!!! Sorry rant over !

 

[Johndeere]

Oscar, viewed this crop today, drilled in December and this was the drill in the same field . I'm happy to post growing pictures on here or on my page.

Is there anything I would change? Show patience especially in the spring and drill when conditions are right and not by a date.

 

[Johndeere]

Also learnt that rolling doesn't make much difference to the seeded strip. The dts re consolidates really well, we have rolled some but don't intend to so much in the future. I think the re designed strake will be a great tool, it germinates blackgrass much quicker than discs so is the best tool if you need a chit in a short weather window. Companies who specialise in wearing metal sales will think their phone is broken waiting for orders of metal for a dts as it goes on forever

 

[Tractor Boy]

Also learnt that rolling doesn't make much difference to the seeded strip. The dts re consolidates really well, we have rolled some but don't intend to so much in the future. I think the re designed strake will be a great tool, it germinates blackgrass much quicker than discs so is the best tool if you need a chit in a short weather window. Companies who specialise in wearing metal sales will think their phone is broken waiting for orders of metal for a dts as it goes on forever

Saw what I presume is the new strake at Lamma. Presumably they had to change the design as it wouldn't work in trash?

 

[Johndeere]

Saw what I presume is the new strake at Lamma. Presumably they had to change the design as it wouldn't work in trash?

Agreed but credit to Shaun he took it back, had a think and re launched it and I think it's much better now, 6 rows instead of 5 with every other hydraulically removed if it's too trashy. Tungsten tipped and built to last

 

[Richard Budd]

Saw what I presume is the new strake at Lamma. Presumably they had to change the design as it wouldn't work in trash?

It would work in trash but only if it was dry, but as Geoff says Sumo stood behind their product collected from the farm and will deliver it back once they have finished the mods...very impressed!

 

[Oscar]

Thanks JD, as I said thats impressive !! Headlands ok also ?,guess they were drilled after middles ?

 

[Johndeere]

Thanks JD, as I said thats impressive !! Headlands ok also ?,guess they were drilled after middles ?

Yes headlands are drilled last, they don't get packed down like the sprinter did but still prefer to do them last

 

[JCfarmer]

Haven't got any picks and probably a good job but have to say our sumo dts trial plot does not look good and is very patchy to say the least. In the same field over half was ploughed and combi drilled and the wheat looks well all over. I'm disappointed to say the least but haven't written the drill off all together but dads not impressed. Both drilled at the same time, the ploughing allowed the water to drain away from the seed. The dts leading leg was only in 4" because of the conditions and the tractor not being able to pull it, the seed got water logged I think but I do need to have a closer look if I'm honest as from the road it does not look good. The whole field was rolled 2 days ago and hoping the bare patches fill out somewhat. Will make a concerted effort to put some photos up in next few days. The right drill and cultivation system for the conditions to get the best possible establishment springs to mind at the moment.

 

[Tractor Boy]

Haven't got any picks and probably a good job but have to say our sumo dts trial plot does not look good and is very patchy to say the least. In the same field over half was ploughed and combi drilled and the wheat looks well all over. I'm disappointed to say the least but haven't written the drill off all together but dads not impressed. Both drilled at the same time, the ploughing allowed the water to drain away from the seed. The dts leading leg was only in 4" because of the conditions and the tractor not being able to pull it, the seed got water logged I think but I do need to have a closer look if I'm honest as from the road it does not look good. The whole field was rolled 2 days ago and hoping the bare patches fill out somewhat. Will make a concerted effort to put some photos up in next few days. The right drill and cultivation system for the conditions to get the best possible establishment springs to mind at the moment.

Sounds like it was too late, too wet and too cold for this sort of establishment.

 

[Johndeere]

Haven't got any picks and probably a good job but have to say our sumo dts trial plot does not look good and is very patchy to say the least. In the same field over half was ploughed and combi drilled and the wheat looks well all over. I'm disappointed to say the least but haven't written the drill off all together but dads not impressed. Both drilled at the same time, the ploughing allowed the water to drain away from the seed. The dts leading leg was only in 4" because of the conditions and the tractor not being able to pull it, the seed got water logged I think but I do need to have a closer look if I'm honest as from the road it does not look good. The whole field was rolled 2 days ago and hoping the bare patches fill out somewhat. Will make a concerted effort to put some photos up in next few days. The right drill and cultivation system for the conditions to get the best possible establishment springs to mind at the moment.

How late was this drilled? I've learnt to use the drill when conditions are right and don't force it on heavy land that doesn't drain