T1 Spend???

[Power Harrow Pilot]

Just finnished the T1's and we are desperate for rain on all crops.
Then I opened the chemical bill!!!!!!!!!
£ 50ha on the 'dirty' varieties
£42 on the others
thats with 2l of chlormequat and some hocus pocus juice to try and kick things off.
Thats a fully walked/supply price.
We are on good wheat land in a normal year, but we are far from a normal year
what are others spending???

 

[Brisel]

£25/ha on fungicide 0.5l Proline + 1l generic chlorothalonil
Add £1.45/ha for 1l/ha of generic 5C chlormequat
Possibly £6.90/ha for 0.1l Talius if I see serious mildew on Invicta (none yet).
Hocus pocus juice? 1 l/ha manganese sulphate £0.48/ha

Chemicals from a buying group & advice per acre from an independent agronomist.

 

[Clive]

£15/ha - 1.5L of Cherokee @ £100 / 10L

plus £9 /ha worth of trace elements, mostly Manganese and Magnesium - hocus pocus juice if you like !

 

[Clive]

Just finnished the T1's and we are desperate for rain on all crops.
Then I opened the chemical bill!!!!!!!!!
£ 50ha on the 'dirty' varieties
£42 on the others
thats with 2l of chlormequat and some hocus pocus juice to try and kick things off.
Thats a fully walked/supply price.
We are on good wheat land in a normal year, but we are far from a normal year
what are others spending???

what on earth have you put on that cost £50/ha ? I hope whatever it is it gold plated !!

 

[Brisel]

Thats a fully walked/supply price.

Might this have something to do with it?

 

[Clive]

Might this have something to do with it?

sure there are limits to the level of pee even those guys can take though surely ?

 

[Power Harrow Pilot]

sigma 46% chlor 2.3l £8.44
sprinter mang + trace 2l £ 7.56
bassoon 8% epoxiconazole .25l £ 5.46
kingdom boscalid + epoxiconazole .85 £ 23.89
balear chlorothalonil .5 £ 4.50


thats on second wheats santiago and diego

no T0 applied

 

[Clive]

sigma 46% chlor 2.3l £8.44
sprinter mang + trace 2l £ 7.56
bassoon 8% epoxiconazole .25l £ 5.46
kingdom boscalid + epoxiconazole .85 £ 23.89
balear chlorothalonil .5 £ 4.50


thats on second wheats santiago and diego

no T0 applied

whose advice ?

 

[Power Harrow Pilot]

procam east yorkshire ???!!!!!

 

[Steevo]

sigma 46% chlor 2.3l £8.44
sprinter mang + trace 2l £ 7.56
bassoon 8% epoxiconazole .25l £ 5.46
kingdom boscalid + epoxiconazole .85 £ 23.89
balear chlorothalonil .5 £ 4.50


thats on second wheats santiago and diego

no T0 applied

Wow, that's a strong fungicide mix!


Assuming sigma to be chlormequat - that seems to be £3.66 a litre, for two thirds strength product. (Normal CCC is 720g/l and approx £1/l)
Can't comment on sprinter I'm afraid.
Bassoon sounds like Ignite and doesn't seem too silly on price (paid £17.40 a litre two years ago)
Kingdom is Tracker which is approx £20/l so a little high there
Balear is twice the price it should be - Bravo 500 is only £4 for a litre.

EDIT: Just looked up Kingdom properly - it's only 60% dose of Boscalid that's in Tracker, and 75% dose of Expoxi. Probably explains topping up with the extra Bassoon to top it up to 70.75g/l expoxi, which is nearer the 67g/l there is in Tracker rather than the 50g/l in Kingdom.

So sounds a sensible T1 mix to me though, just a bit highly priced given the products involved.

 

[SilliamWhale]

I've been told. 1l/ha of kingdom, plus 1 litre of bravo plus 1.5 cycocel. I think it is very expensive for t1.
West Wales tho septoria pressure always high but still....

 

[Dockers]

Power Harrow Pilot. Join TAG, you would already have saved your sub, and have money left over !

 

[Reg]

0.75 lt Cortez
1 lt ctl
1.5 lt 70% ccc

bang on £20/ha

 

[Woodlander]

Most of my wheat had a T0 of 1l chlorothalonil (ctl) as I was going through with trace elements and chlormequat (cheap insurance). Have started T1 on forward wheats. The best has had 1l chord (similar to tracker) With 1l ctl. Most will get 1l ctl with 0.6 epoxiconazole. The latter mix coming in just below £15/ha. Disease levels are low at the minute but must keep septoria out. Have been talking to a grower in Cambs today using a massive spend of Imtrex, Brutus and ctl.

 

[Jamin]

T0 here was 1lt CTL and some manganese. T1 is 1lt Tracker, 1lt CTL, 0.3 Cortez and 1.5lt CCC.

First wheats here looking well with plenty of potential if we get some rain soon. Have been talking to farming friends recently all with different agronomists and what some are suggesting is seriously expensive can't see the point.

 

[franklin]

For the good:

0.75lt Mantra
1lt CCC
Assorted trace elements.

About £25/ha

The poor

1lt Cherokee
1lt CCC
Some trace elements

sub £20/ha

T0s was a litre of cherokee.

There is good as no disease on the crops.

 

[An Gof]

T1 here is £34.42 per Ha

1 L/Ha Bravo
1 L/Ha Adexar
0.75 L/Ha 72% CCC

Prices supply only on First wheats which are all in good fettle.

 

[Andrew K]

Can you actually find much disease, are conditions favourable? No in our case, so its cheapo at T1, no T0 required on WW.
Spring wheat will get Cherokee,winters Rubric plus a bit of PGR and Mn Sulphate.

 

[fenlander]

T1 spend here is £34.57

1 l/ha Tracker
1 l/ha Bravo
1 l/Ha 720g ccc
1 l/ha mn

all first wheat with reasonable potential given right weather between now and harvest

 

[yellow belly]

planning .5 l epoxy plus chlothan

imho no need for any more here not had enough rain or high enough temp in the last 3 weeks around here to get disease going over the years when it has been dry t1 sprays have not payed but now with protectant part of chems having to do the job