T2

[teslacoils]

So, T2 has always been the big spend. Is this Revystar the complete dogs danglies? Because £45/ha gets me a lot of other chem.

 

[moretimeforgolf]

Flag leaf out on 90% of the wheat here. Going with Elatus Era - about £31/ha. Crops are clean, only Skyfall has had a fungicide so far.

 

[T Hectares]

I’m going for Revystar at T2, potential and prices are good and you should be able to shave a few ££/ha of that Revystar price @teslacoils

Not spent much so far and depending on T3 should be £75-80 on Firefly and Elicit

 

[teslacoils]

I've spent a lot. Well, not really as it was all stock anyway and who wants to be left with opus after its use by date? Or three year old amistar? So crops look well and no disease despite it looking like 20 days of wet, humid weather since T1.

I've not got a price yet but heard it was c£450 for a ten litre tub.

Very limited Aviator left. Ascara I can get.

Just feels a very heavy fungicide use in the "dry" east. Can't imagine the septoria in the wet west.

 

[T Hectares]

I've spent a lot. Well, not really as it was all stock anyway and who wants to be left with opus after its use by date? Or three year old amistar? So crops look well and no disease despite it looking like 20 days of wet, humid weather since T1.

I've not got a price yet but heard it was c£450 for a ten litre tub.

Very limited Aviator left. Ascara I can get.

Just feels a very heavy fungicide use in the "dry" east. Can't imagine the septoria in the wet west.

You’re probably more a rust risk than sept (depending on variety) ??

My second choice would’ve been Ascra but I’d used Aviator at T1 so didn’t want use the same actives again, a bit less Sept pressure and more of a rust focus I’d have gone for Elatus I reckon

 

[cricketandcrops]

0.75 Revystar or 0.8 Elatus or 1.2 Ascra all within pence per ha of each other........was favouring Elatus due to excellent rust control but still 7-10 days off T2 so will see what weather we get between now and then and forecast

 

[teslacoils]

0.75 Revystar or 0.8 Elatus or 1.2 Ascra all within pence per ha of each other.

No shocks there. About as surprising as Revystar appearing when we say goodbye to epoxi.

 

[Secret Agronomist]

0.75 Revystar or 0.8 Elatus or 1.2 Ascra all within pence per ha of each other........was favouring Elatus due to excellent rust control but still 7-10 days off T2 so will see what weather we get between now and then and forecast

Yes, thats the options I'm looking at and not a huge difference.
Given that "here" we always do a robust T3 there may be an option to trim it a bit, but flag leaf wont be out here for a week and we have had a good amount of rain and crops are looking ok. What about adding Folpet?

 

[SilliamWhale]

So, T2 has always been the big spend. Is this Revystar the complete dogs danglies? Because £45/ha gets me a lot of other chem.

Are you also doing a spray miss like you do with biostimulants to see if the Revystar pays it's way?

 

[robbie]

Is the flopet worth bothering with??? For the cost of the folpet, which is what 8-10 quid a ha surely a 10ers worth of extra Sdhi mix would do more good.

Don't know what I'll use at T2 yet I'm drawn towards ascra but may go with elatus if rust is about. At the moment I'm trying to work out what to do about T2 timings. I go on hols next Wednesday which is too early for T2 but don't get back until 5th June which will be 3 and a half weeks plus between T1 and T2. T1 was only teb so will have well and truly run out of steam by then. I'm consoling myself in the fact that the new Chems have kick back so I should be able to get myself out of stook if things go pear shaped in the mean time.

The other option is a T1.5 which I'm not keen on.

 

[teslacoils]

Are you also doing a spray miss like you do with biostimulants to see if the Revystar pays it's way?

No. I'm about trialed up at the moment. I'm tempted to do two different products to side by side them. But I've already got seed dressing trial in one field, and rolling trial in the other.

T2 too profitable to muck about too much.

 

[teslacoils]

Graham.

 

[Neddy flanders]

Is the flopet worth bothering with??? For the cost of the folpet, which is what 8-10 quid a ha surely a 10ers worth of extra Sdhi mix would do more good.

Don't know what I'll use at T2 yet I'm drawn towards ascra but may go with elatus if rust is about. At the moment I'm trying to work out what to do about T2 timings. I go on hols next Wednesday which is too early for T2 but don't get back until 5th June which will be 3 and a half weeks plus between T1 and T2. T1 was only teb so will have well and truly run out of steam by then. I'm consoling myself in the fact that the new Chems have kick back so I should be able to get myself out of stook if things go pear shaped in the mean time.

The other option is a T1.5 which I'm not keen on.

5th og june will be too late.
bang a decent product onto leaf 2 and tip of flag now. come back with decent ear wash. sleep easy on your hols.

 

[T Hectares]

Is the flopet worth bothering with??? For the cost of the folpet, which is what 8-10 quid a ha surely a 10ers worth of extra Sdhi mix would do more good.

That’s how I see it, spend a bit more on the chem that works
Cant see it’s worth doing a T1.5 without CTL, everything else is too expensive

 

[yellow belly]

If it keeps raining every other day into June then the full rate will pay

need a dry week to use lower rates or cheaper products

half a tonne a ha extra pays for a lot of chemical
wet years ( rain twice a week )the yield increases from high rates is 3 to 5 tonnes per ha

even the best disease resistance needs help

if it stopped raining after next week end till 20 June then lower rates would be fine here but forecast gives rain every day for a week

 

[bobk]

If it keeps raining every other day into June then the full rate will pay

need a dry week to use lower rates or cheaper products

half a tonne a ha extra pays for a lot of chemical
wet years ( rain twice a week )the yield increases from high rates is 3 to 5 tonnes per ha

even the best disease resistance needs help

if it stopped raining after next week end till 20 June then lower rates would be fine here but forecast gives rain every day for a week

My sheepman says we're having a big heatwave . he's normally spot on , he forecast this crap we're having now

 

[lloyd]

My sheepman says we're having a big heatwave . he's normally spot on , he forecast this crap we're having now

Well he only had a 50 % chance of getting it right .

 

[Zippy768]

My sheepman says we're having a big heatwave . he's normally spot on , he forecast this crap we're having now

And did he tell you when?

 

[bobk]

And did he tell you when?

From now , ish .

 

[lloyd]

And did he tell you when?

I think the daily mirror told him half term week.