TB and dribble bars

[Sid]

Heard of two farms locally that have switched from splash plates to dribble bars and are now spreading grazing ground with slurry.

Both of these dribble bars have been bought with grant money and are thought to be spreading TB amongst the cattle with stomach lesions coming back at slaughter.

One herd has lost 30% of it herd with stomach lesions.

The action of these grants once again caused a consequence that wasn't considered ?

 

[Mark Hatton]

Heard of two farms locally that have switched from splash plates to dribble bars and are now spreading grazing ground with slurry.

Both of these dribble bars have been bought with grant money and are spreading TB amongst the cattle with stomach lesions coming back at slaughter.

One herd has lost 30% of it herd with stomach lesions.

The action of these grants once again caused a consequence that wasn't considered ?

Is there still a plan to ban splash plates or has it changed?

 

[Cowmansam]

If the cattle have lesions and are shedding on the muck that would indicate a long term problem that’s not been picked up sound like bad testing practice

 

[Sid]

Is there still a plan to ban splash plates or has it changed?

Still to be banned.

 

[Sid]

If the cattle have lesions and are shedding on the muck that would indicate a long term problem that’s not been picked up sound like bad testing practice

Cattle have been blood tested twice.

Issue becomes that cattle shedding through muck and its mixed and spread evenly through slurry and contaminates pasture.

Shouldn't graze slurry spread on grass for 60 days, whereas silage grass tb should be killed by day 28 due to acid loading in fermentation process.

@matthew will know more I suspect.

 

[Sid]

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[Cowmansam]

Hadn’t realised it would live aslong as two months without a host

 

[sidjon]

Hadn’t realised it would live aslong as two months without a host

6 months is slurry from cows shedding TB, we have had this conversation with our vets, we're splash plate only now, didn't get on with dribble bar as our slurry is gritty as hell and destroyed macerator very quickly, our effluent is spread on to bare soil after grazing, don't see any signs of it after 10 days, dribble bar could be still seen at 30 days if we have little rain, plus we've gone clear since I cut up dribble bar and turned it into twin splash plate.

 

[Bald Rick]

Heard of two farms locally that have switched from splash plates to dribble bars and are now spreading grazing ground with slurry.

Both of these dribble bars have been bought with grant money and are spreading TB amongst the cattle with stomach lesions coming back at slaughter.

One herd has lost 30% of it herd with stomach lesions.

The action of these grants once again caused a consequence that wasn't considered ?

Not sure I am grasping why a dribble bar is causing more incidences of TB than a splash plate.

I would have thought the reverse was true due to leaf contamination

Can someone enlighten me?

 

[Sid]

Not sure I am grasping why a dribble bar is causing more incidences of TB than a splash plate.

I would have thought the reverse was true due to leaf contamination

Can someone enlighten me?

Less likely to use a splash plate due to high risk of leaf contamination and complete sward rejection.
Can "get away" using a dribble bar as leaf has less contamination, doesn't mean it isn't there.

Training shoe the slurry should be under the canopy, but in practice ends would be contaminated in part but only on ends.

Does depend on viscosity of slurry applied and rainfall after application

 

[sidjon]

Not sure I am grasping why a dribble bar is causing more incidences of TB than a splash plate.

I would have thought the reverse was true due to leaf contamination

Can someone enlighten me?

UV kill would be better on very thin layer of effluent, but you need to eat grass properly and even so it goes on soil not 1800kg of post grazed grass.

 

[betweenthelines]

Cattle have been blood tested twice.

Issue becomes that cattle shedding through muck and its mixed and spread evenly through slurry and contaminates pasture.

Shouldn't graze slurry spread on grass for 60 days, whereas silage grass tb should be killed by day 28 due to acid loading in fermentation process.

@matthew will know more I suspect.

What's the difference between slurry and cowpats? Cows graze on a cycle usually between 18-28 day with no issues?

Youngstock are sometimes on a leader/follower system so often graze the day after something younger has sh!t in the field. And then there's set stocking?

 

[Sid]

What's the difference between slurry and cowpats? Cows graze on a cycle usually between 18-28 day with no issues?

Large spaces between cow pats,

I do question the use of flail topper and the integral roller.

 

[Cowmansam]

Cows eat round there pats

 

[kill]

Heard of two farms locally that have switched from splash plates to dribble bars and are now spreading grazing ground with slurry.

Both of these dribble bars have been bought with grant money and are spreading TB amongst the cattle with stomach lesions coming back at slaughter.

One herd has lost 30% of it herd with stomach lesions.

The action of these grants once again caused a consequence that wasn't considered ?

I guess one of these people that you refer to is me @Sid ?
Facts totally incorrect again.
Havent dribble barred a load on grazing ground this year and that’s a FACT.
Boredom and your autism again
Soo low for a FCN advisor at time of despair like this

 

[d williams]

Less likely to use a splash plate due to high risk of leaf contamination and complete sward rejection.
Can "get away" using a dribble bar as leaf has less contamination, doesn't mean it isn't there.

Training shoe the slurry should be under the canopy, but in practice ends would be contaminated in part but only on ends.

Does depend on viscosity of slurry applied and rainfall after application

That’s a management issue not the dribble bars fault???

 

[Scholsey]

When you have little black and white slurry tankers trundling around trickling bTb bacteria all over the grazing block surely what you do with slurry is irrelevant?

 

[In the pit]

The end of organic farmers then

 

[Sid]

That’s a management issue not the dribble bars fault???

The issue is raising its head.
The fact is dribble bars have made grass more grazable than with a splash plate.

 

[Sid]

The end of organic farmers then

No it's a management issue.
But this is a reason I won't have a dribble bar on the farm, grant or not!