That's nice,just before Christmas.

Frank-the-Wool

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
East Sussex
Make sure you are in a water catchment. If not you can appeal and have the land taken out.
I did this and it was a relatively straightforward process if you are not in a catchment, you do have to get some evidence but it is not difficult.
 

Muddy Boots

Member
Location
S.Devon
All land runs down to estuary so sure not able to get out. How long have I got to comply? Farm beef but have some slurry that needs spreading a couple of times during winter.
 
All land runs down to estuary so sure not able to get out. How long have I got to comply? Farm beef but have some slurry that needs spreading a couple of times during winter.
Slurry spreading from mid October to February is out, you will need to calculate the amount of slurry you produce based on the livestock you keep and will need a minimum of 5 months storage for that slurry which I'm guessing you don't currently have if you need to spread a couple of times during winter.
 

milkloss

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
East Sussex
So I've been looking at our EA NVZ designation maps and evidence and I think we're being dealt a bad hand. Out of three water samples one failed badly and guess where it is? Less than 500m from a sewage works! Everything else down stream is a good sample, only two I'll admit but still.

Who do we go to to question this evidence and the designation?
 
So I've been looking at our EA NVZ designation maps and evidence and I think we're being dealt a bad hand. Out of three water samples one failed badly and guess where it is? Less than 500m from a sewage works! Everything else down stream is a good sample, only two I'll admit but still.

Who do we go to to question this evidence and the designation?

We had the same, passed it onto our NFU office, thy fought it and now we're not in a NVZ :)
 

Yale

Member
Livestock Farmer
You sure you're fully compliant? I can assure you an EA inspection is very thorough. The storage and closed spreading periods are the easy part.

Yes,we had an inspection,at one point I had to correct the inspector as she did not know certain parts of the rules which were written in black and white.

It's like going back to school,colouring the maps in pretty colours and working out spreading areas etc.

Not too painful.
 

Boysground

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Wiltshire
So I've been looking at our EA NVZ designation maps and evidence and I think we're being dealt a bad hand. Out of three water samples one failed badly and guess where it is? Less than 500m from a sewage works! Everything else down stream is a good sample, only two I'll admit but still.

Who do we go to to question this evidence and the designation?

I am in a nvz because of 1 borehole failure about 5 miles from me. The whole valley does drain into the Hampshire Avon catchment which has particular phosphate and nitrate issues. One of my neighbours who has more cash than me appealed. He had 20 years of test data from his borehole no test was close to a high number reading. He still lost.

As far as I am concerned nvz is one of the most poorly written pieces of legislation. In my case on mostly shallow soils I am allowed to spread between January and August (with some exceptions). This means I can be forced to spread early in poor conditions as most of the time crops are too big for machines to travel.

Nvz takes farming by date to an extreme and does not allow for common sense. I had and passed a full EA inspection in November. My advice is use the planet and manner software it makes everything easier.

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solo

Member
Location
worcestershire
All land runs down to estuary so sure not able to get out. How long have I got to comply? Farm beef but have some slurry that needs spreading a couple of times during winter.
I'm in a nvz and my neighbour was plastering the field next to a main road this morning with I presume "dirty water". Nvz Hasn't made any difference as far as I can see. It's not dry maize stubble either judging by the trail of mud up the road.
 

Yale

Member
Livestock Farmer
I'm in a nvz and my neighbour was plastering the field next to a main road this morning with I presume "dirty water". Nvz Hasn't made any difference as far as I can see. It's not dry maize stubble either judging by the trail of mud up the road.

I had this discussion with the EA 'lady' about dirty water separated from a muck store.

Apparently it is classed as slurry.:scratchhead:

NVZ = pen pushers paradise.:facepalm:
 

Boysground

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Wiltshire
I had a word about this when I had my inspection. Liquid coming from a muck store if it is rain running off concrete, weaping wall liquid or separated liquid is all classified as slurry. Roof water or water from a yard that does not house animals can be treated as dirty water not slurry. I have a yard which heifers only occupy when their cubicle shed is cleaned out. This yard is then scraped clean. Ea are happy that the run off from this is dirty water.

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