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- Haute Vienne, France
When I moved to France we rolled our cereal crops after the drill and I had several people tell me they had never seen it done before.
It's funny how various regions do things differently (I'm sure there is a reason) but it can be very difficult to figure out why....When I moved to France we rolled our cereal crops after the drill and I had several people tell me they had never seen it done before.
No, it’s second wheat.was that in OSR previously? i get little bother here after any other crop but OSR & any dry clods what a job. all rolled aswell
Definitely not cosmetic. You maybe can’t see too well in the pic but there’s hardly a plant growing where the rolling stops.I have had more problems in the autumn from rolling than not rolling - the benefits on this fairly light land seem almost cosmetic, the downside if it comes wet are poor emergence (particularly headlands)
If in doubt I now don't roll - it can always be done in the spring if needed
When I moved to France we rolled our cereal crops after the drill and I had several people tell me they had never seen it done before.
Very heavy?I had neighbours running over saying FFS don’t do that!!!!!!!!
And on this soil, they were dead right
I must point out to the OP that the use of a plough and PH combi drill is not seen as PC at this point in time and that he must sell all his big tractors and cultivation kit and buy a £120,000 direct drill.I am now keeping "book" on how long before the use of a plough (and combi) is pointed at
I would have thought the opposite.Very heavy?
I would never roll heavy land after the drill, so i suppose the french think the sameI would have thought the opposite.
Or a rather cheaper Simtech?I must point out to the OP that the use of a plough and PH combi drill is not seen as PC at this point in time and that he must sell all his big tractors and cultivation kit and buy a £120,000 direct drill.
First time I’ve heard that. Why so?I would never roll heavy land after the drill, so i suppose the french think the same
We will always roll heavy land after the drill if the weather allows. Is your heavy land the same as my heavy land?? ie 45%clay. Even my 'boys ground' and the chalk will get rolled asap after drilling if possible. I've been doing it successfully for over 40 years and its always better rolled than not, apart from turning headlands when wet underneath.I would never roll heavy land after the drill, so i suppose the french think the same
Three inches of rain on top of rolled spring barley = disasterWe will always roll heavy land after the drill if the weather allows. Is your heavy land the same as my heavy land?? ie 45%clay. Even my 'boys ground' and the chalk will get rolled asap after drilling if possible. I've been doing it successfully for over 40 years and its always better rolled than not, apart from turning headlands when wet underneath.
Looks like a drill miss to me, okay at the far end and next run has come fine?No, it’s second wheat.
Definitely not cosmetic. You maybe can’t see too well in the pic but there’s hardly a plant growing where the rolling stops.
That’s what I thought when I first looked at the picture.Looks like a drill miss to me, okay at the far end and next run has come fine?
On further two passes diverge within the "pass"That’s what I thought when I first looked at the picture.
I don't think enough rolling is done. Done right (and with a reasonable season in front of it) it works wonders.
I wish more people would roll their stubbles where they are harrowing or otherwise tilling them. Get a far better weed chit and it firms the surface up making it less hospitable for slugs.
Would do it after drilling for most crops where it was possible. Makes it harder for slugs and birds to get at the seed. Makes it better for soil acting chemistry. Evens up emergence.
It can be done in the spring I agree but not always- depends on the spring and your ground.
Not on the surface.Very heavy?
Not on the surface.
Most of the land we farm here is glacial wash silty sand over clay and/or granite.
Some of the granite can be quite impressive. I farm the opposite side of the valley from a hamlet called "Roche" which I don't think you need translating.
Its pretty light, easy working stuff on the surface but its often not that far down to the impermeable stuff.
Therefore easy to pack down too tight and also water can just sit on this land.