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Kevtherev

Member
Location
Welshpool Powys
Clive doesn't use it :oops:


he has Bidets and ensuite ;)
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Dry Rot

Member
Livestock Farmer
Some people have very sheltered lives. A nice wisp if hay made from fine grasses is better than any shop bought bog roll!

"In days of old, when knights were bold,
They wiped their arses with wisps of grasses
and walked away contented!".
 

graham mc

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
East Yorkshire
not what we are doing ! ……. you wouldn’t even need AI for that, just a simple script

i think in the future AI will be able to read and summarise a long thread or work out the best answer for the op based in collective crowd wisdom etc

in fact that is 100% possible right now

what would they make about the how to remove a dead horse thread!!! about time that was brought up again

 

soapsud

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Dorset
There’s a recently joined “member” who I think is an AI construct, not a human being. I won’t name names as I don’t want to cause offence if that member isn’t a bot.
Most bots are human augmented aren't they?
Bot handlers have their own culture that colours their use of language.

For instance the typical responses made by ChatGPT are mostly american in style. Any brit would easily sense that.

Bots only try to keep threads going. Apart from @Sid are there any other baiters on this forum?
 

Clive

Staff Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lichfield
what would they make about the how to remove a dead horse thread!!! about time that was brought up again


i might run that thread through chat gpt and see what it thinks ! 🤣
 

thesilentone

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Cumbria
Many years ago I attended a symposium on farming in a 100 years time, where various scenarios were presented.

These ranged from community farming, and a community supply chain, including energy, skills and materials to massive highly mechanized corporate enterprises. Both stock and arable projects were presented, and in most cases technology and automation were the leaders.

For the here and now, self sufficiently means what ? everything, food, fuel, food and fuel, what exactly ?

The debate needs to had, and it's a very big one, where do you start ? The planners, supermarkets, politicians, farmers, people where exactly ?

Who would it affect, and how could you ensure a holistic approach and who would benefit the most ?

One of the subjects at the top of the political agenda is global mass migration, which has a whole plethora of reasons from war to climate change, how can self-sufficiency in the UK log into that problem ?

We have/had 000's of seasonal workers from all over Europe veggie and fruit bashing, often taking currency out of the Country at the end of each season to improve lives in there Country of origin, why not offer the same to those from African Countries where the same levels of currency would have a massive impact improving lives and conditions ?

The logistics of a circular economy here in the UK would require massive cooperation between all those in that supply chain. Food fuel, transport and conditions of supply would require a sea change that included a huge social agenda and a shift away from conventional funding and divi's for investors.

Buying into the secure future of your family and society in general, is not high on the agenda in the dog eat dog world we are currently in.

We are in a large ocean without direction at the moment, Globalisation is now being shifted to the back burner, and home supply/security is moving to the front. For those who created Globalisation, maybe a little longer in History at School would have paid benefits, to think we could carry on and grow globally without future wars was a one way street.
 

SteveHants

Member
Livestock Farmer
There will be no end of jobs involving highly skilled people fixing the damn machines.

Robots cannot take all human jobs. If there was no work and it was all done by robot slaves, what would people do all day? Can you imagine twitter with 5 times the userbase and unlimited time for tweeting?
I'm talking about the so called "unskilled" jobs that make up the vast bulk of the workforce in any given country - that is why governments are playing with universal benefits, paid by the state because when those jobs go, it might be cheaper to expect people to work part time and the state tops them up than have widespread rioting etc. It will still probably work out cheaper for corporations than employing them.
 

DrWazzock

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
Went to the lawnmower this morning.
The lithium battery thing has packed up. Won’t recharge. Needed for the starter and to run the ignition. It’s nearly half the price of the mower.
Has anybody factored in the cost of all these autonomous robots in terms of rare metals and plastics used and the impending environmental disaster that’s about to unleash. Why do I have a lawn anyway? If it was up to me I’d run the sheep right to the house walls. I really would, but other partners can’t break out of the way things have always been. But in my view mowing a lawn to Chuck grass on a heap is wrong on so many levels. They’re are lots of money pits like this that we just don’t need if we really thought about it, but we’ve been brainwashed. Not quite on thread but a passing aside.
 

DrWazzock

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
And there’s a bloke down in the village has taken it upon himself to treat the lawn round my let bungalow with moss killer. He can’t bear to see moss so he lashes on chemicals. I don’t pay him as I’m not in the slightest bit bothered about moss but he insists on doing it as if the world order will collapse if moss takes hold. Absolutely amazes me how tradition is so hard to let go for some people.
 

Kevtherev

Member
Location
Welshpool Powys
And there’s a bloke down in the village has taken it upon himself to treat the lawn round my let bungalow with moss killer. He can’t bear to see moss so he lashes on chemicals. I don’t pay him as I’m not in the slightest bit bothered about moss but he insists on doing it as if the world order will collapse if moss takes hold. Absolutely amazes me how tradition is so hard to let go for some people.
How many £ of fuel and time is spent just in the UK on lawn mowing?
 
All this talk of being self sufficient is fine. We could all grow food if we really had to, the problem is preserving it in times of surplus. This is where freezers come in and what do they require ? Electricity. Yes we can have solar and wind generators, but as we all know, they are not a 100% reliable source. What do we all use every day ? water. Why have they not developed a small scale turbine system that links into the mains yet. Most properties have water meters, these must use a turbine of sorts. Link a low voltage generator to the meter, storage battery and inverter, and you could run a freezer for a few hours a day. Link another turbine into the waste water system and you are using the power of the water twice. Im sure this could be done.
If any of you appear on Dragons Den with this idea, I want a cut of the royalties.
 

SFI - What % were you taking out of production?

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    Votes: 118 38.4%
  • Up to 25%

    Votes: 118 38.4%
  • 25-50%

    Votes: 42 13.7%
  • 50-75%

    Votes: 6 2.0%
  • 75-100%

    Votes: 5 1.6%
  • 100% I’ve had enough of farming!

    Votes: 18 5.9%

Expanded and improved Sustainable Farming Incentive offer for farmers published

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Expanded Sustainable Farming Incentive offer from July will give the sector a clear path forward and boost farm business resilience.

From: Department for Environment, Food & Rural Affairs and The Rt Hon Sir Mark Spencer MP Published21 May 2024

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Full details of the expanded and improved Sustainable Farming Incentive (SFI) offer available to farmers from July have been published by the...
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