The great global warming scam, worth a listen I think.

[banjo]

Chart showing earths temp causes co2 rise and fall cos the earths temp is the first thing to move, then the co2 charts mirror around 5 years later, thus earths temp controls co2.

 

[Farmer Roy]

 

[Old McDonald]

More nonsense. The 13th May 2017 level was 82mm. That is a one mm fall in three months (to 20th August) not 3mm. 21st July 2017 was 83.3mm. You could have been even more cock-a-hoop and announced a 2.3mm fall in only 30 days. You could have gone even further and spouted off about a whole mm drop from 10th to 20th August.

You really do not understand about the things you show and post do you? If you did you would not post a chart that shows an approximate 5mm rise in about 20 months.

Try the full graphs for a proper perspective.

https://climate.nasa.gov/vital-signs/sea-level/

 

[Old McDonald]

Bbbrrrrr cold around the world!

@Farmer Roy The world includes you and all the rest of Australia. The fact that it is bigger than the USA does not matter.

I note northern NSW is only in the low 40s and Glen Innes airport managed to get as low as 12.6 overnight. Still a way to go before you match last year. I suspect you might though, and yesterday in the Sydney area cannot have been too pleasant.

 

[Campani]

@banjo

I get a bit confused about what you believe is happening.
Do you believe the world is going through a change in climate yes or No?

I ask because you have said in the past the sun is not being taken into account on climate models. But you also keep posting evidence saying the earth isnt warming. It would be good to have a clarification.

 

[Farmer Roy]

 

[banjo]

@banjo

I get a bit confused about what you believe is happening.
Do you believe the world is going through a change in climate yes or No?

I ask because you have said in the past the sun is not being taken into account on climate models. But you also keep posting evidence saying the earth isnt warming. It would be good to have a clarification.

I don't usually answer the continual attacks on me posting stuff cos people tend to get off the true graphs and vids I post and it's not worth the hassle. But you asked a tidy question and here's my answer.
I have said many times since the beginning of this thread my opinion about climate change. The climate has always changed in cycles, different ones, the sun has 11, 40 and 60 year cycles that efect the earth since the beginning if time.
The earths orbit changed slightly and the Suns efect changes as this happens, the biggest thing is sun spot activity though.
The 60 years cycle of less sun spots, as is now happening, creates less of a warming efect on the earth, through various effects.
In our history all the sun spot lows and highs have efected the earth in massive ways through time, not human man made co2, that's a con, this has been proven as the previous graph I put up.
During my lifetime, 45 years I've been continually lectured to since school about these big things that are suposed to happen due to human made co2, it's all complete rubbish, just to collect more money out of your pocket. Every single warning of sea level rise, up to 15 feet, Arctic melting by last year, continual bleeding on about untruths to frighten children in school has git me pretty pee'd with their nonsence.
Every climate model has been incorrect, not one has been near the mark, miles out.
We are currently going into a colder period of the earth Currently a 60 year cycle is happening at exactly the same time as an eleven year cycle of the sun, both going down. We are going to experience winters like in 1950s to 60s only for a longer period, maybe 30 years!
I only ask that people listen to the other side of this argument and decide fir themselves, I'm not forcing anyone to read or listen to my posts, just keep an open mind, cost the human man made global warming scam is false, it's the sun and the moons activity that effects the earth more than any human.
I know most tag me on here and are afraid for another opinion on this subject, but I don't care, I will be proven correct and stand by everything I've said, I even predicted the snow and bad weather this year 6 months ago and the wind storms before they happend due to a huge earth facing explosion on the sun.
This chap will explain it and I hope it answers your question.

 

[Campani]

I don't usually answer the continual attacks on me posting stuff cos people tend to get off the true graphs and vids I post and it's not worth the hassle. But you asked a tidy question and here's my answer.
I have said many times since the beginning of this thread my opinion about climate change. The climate has always changed in cycles, different ones, the sun has 11, 40 and 60 year cycles that efect the earth since the beginning if time.
The earths orbit changed slightly and the Suns efect changes as this happens, the biggest thing is sun spot activity though.
The 60 years cycle of less sun spots, as is now happening, creates less of a warming efect on the earth, through various effects.
In our history all the sun spot lows and highs have efected the earth in massive ways through time, not human man made co2, that's a con, this has been proven as the previous graph I put up.
During my lifetime, 45 years I've been continually lectured to since school about these big things that are suposed to happen due to human made co2, it's all complete rubbish, just to collect more money out of your pocket. Every single warning of sea level rise, up to 15 feet, Arctic melting by last year, continual bleeding on about untruths to frighten children in school has git me pretty pee'd with their nonsence.
Every climate model has been incorrect, not one has been near the mark, miles out.
We are currently going into a colder period of the earth Currently a 60 year cycle is happening at exactly the same time as an eleven year cycle of the sun, both going down. We are going to experience winters like in 1950s to 60s only for a longer period, maybe 30 years!
I only ask that people listen to the other side of this argument and decide fir themselves, I'm not forcing anyone to read or listen to my posts, just keep an open mind, cost the human man made global warming scam is false, it's the sun and the moons activity that effects the earth more than any human.
I know most tag me on here and are afraid for another opinion on this subject, but I don't care, I will be proven correct and stand by everything I've said, I even predicted the snow and bad weather this year 6 months ago and the wind storms before they happend due to a huge earth facing explosion on the sun.
This chap will explain it and I hope it answers your question.

To sum up and make sure I read this correctly.

Yes climate is changing, it's caused by the cycles in the suns and moons activities not by the release of greenhouse gases.
According to the cycles we are about to enter a period of 30 years of cooling and extreme winters.

 

[Farmer Roy]

http://www.climatecouncil.org.au/a-timeline-of-earths-average-temperature-in-comic-form

 

[Farmer Roy]

 

[linga]

I don't usually answer the continual attacks on me posting stuff cos people tend to get off the true graphs and vids I post and it's not worth the hassle. But you asked a tidy question and here's my answer.

No they dont. They demonstrate the untruth( or selective truth ) in your graphs and vids which you conveniently ignore

 

[banjo]

Here's a cracker for you all, corrupted sea level data that's happened this week by NASA itself.
If you look back at some of the last screenshots and posts of sea level off NASA own sat data, off their own site.
You will notice it's been changed, yes altered this week, origional sat data has been changed while I've been posting it on here.
4mm of sea level has been added onto the origional measured data.
f**king crooks the lot of em!

 

[banjo]

To sum up and make sure I read this correctly.

Yes climate is changing, it's caused by the cycles in the suns and moons activities not by the release of greenhouse gases.
According to the cycles we are about to enter a period of 30 years of cooling and extreme winters.

Yes there will be roughly 30 years of a cooling efect while the sunspot activity is lower then it will climb back out as the sun spot activity increases after that.
The co2 level will drop as the earth cools ( 5 year lag behind ) and the co2 will go back where it came from, into the sea as the sea cools.
That's my opinion, not pushing it on anyone, just posting what I belive will happen during the next decade or three.
I have no beef with others who have another opinion on the subject and don't try to stop them posting.
But they don't seem to like other opinions even when global warming is proved false and they changed the name to climate change because of the facts.

 

[ollie989898]

Sunspots have jack to do with it.

20 year, 60 year, yadda yadda yadda. It's all pants. Sorry.

CO2 goes back into the sea? Yes, as carbonic acid, fantastic idea.

I'm sorry folks but AGW is REAL. We need to stop bite the bullet and stop burning this carbon stuff. It's killing us through respiratory illness and poisoning the seas slowly anyway, might as well do without it. In not many years the switch will be made by most economies and you need not worry yourself about it, plenty of very clever people are working on carbon free energy solutions anyway, and many of them, like the electric car, will save you money anyway.

 

[Wellytrack]

Here's a cracker for you all, corrupted sea level data that's happened this week by NASA itself.
If you look back at some of the last screenshots and posts of sea level off NASA own sat data, off their own site.
You will notice it's been changed, yes altered this week, origional sat data has been changed while I've been posting it on here.
4mm of sea level has been added onto the origional measured data.
fudgeing crooks the lot of em!

So what about the people having their houses washed away, are they fudging crooks too?

 

[banjo]

People just can't axept the correct measurements, it's that simple, and these are correct. Sea level has been dropping for over 2 years.
The little rant above is talking about pollution, not climate change, I'm talking about the temp of the earth and co2 emissions.
Of course we should not be polluting the earth, that's a no brainer, answer is nuclear power to run your electric cars, but you don't like that, so gases from Russia and oil from everywhere currently keep your lights on.
95% of greenhouse effect is water vapour and 1.5% of the remaining 5% is co2, and 0.015ppm is human man made co2, that's facts for you.
Sunspots do efect the earth and always have and we have ice core samples and other measurements to prove it.
Dont confuse pollution with climate change and try to make me out to be for pollution, some have tryed that before and come unstuck!
By the way, look at the changes made to this origional data taken by screenshot showing what the correct sea level sat data was before NASA tampering yesterday

 

[ollie989898]

Please do explain how anyone can find anything in ice core data that enables them to have any clue about the activity of the Sun?

 

[Campani]

Yes there will be roughly 30 years of a cooling efect while the sunspot activity is lower then it will climb back out as the sun spot activity increases after that.
The co2 level will drop as the earth cools ( 5 year lag behind ) and the co2 will go back where it came from, into the sea

Two questions:

When will the cooling start?

Does all the co2 come from the sea? Or like 90%, 50%, 20%? At least some just becoming from car's, coal powered power plants airplanes etc?

 

[banjo]

Two questions:

When will the cooling start?

Does all the co2 come from the sea? Or like 90%, 50%, 20%? At least some just becoming from car's, coal powered power plants airplanes etc?

Very interesting question.
Most co2 comes from the sea. When the sea warms as the earth warms it releases co2 from its depths
( 70% of the earths surface is the sea, 30% above the sea )
There are more co2 releasing plants under the sea than above it, so that's where a lot comes from and also rocks.
So 95% of greenhouse effect is water vapour,
5% is all other gases, co2 is 2% of that
0.015ppm is all of the human effect on co2 including burning fossil fuels.
So 2% 4.85% is animal, plant and other sources of co2.
This is the big one though, from what I understand, a volcano spews out as much co2 in a day as all the human effect in 1 year, so that is in the 2% of 4.85% somewhere.
There are upto 50 volcanoes active all year around, under the sea and above, so that is a big part of the 4.85%
This is why active volcanoes are so dangerouse to people living around them. Huge amounts of co2 are released, this lifts out over the lip and drops to the ground as it try's to get back to the sea, if there are any hollows that it can be caught in, it can kill people in very large ppm% cost there is no oxygen to breath.

We are currently sloping down out of the heating effect, 1990 was the top of it cos hardly any significant warming has happened since then, it's been elninio that's been spiking the earths heat over the last year or two.
So we are 5 or ten years into a cooling efect that will last for around 15 years before it hits the bottom, then we will climb out another 15 cooler years as the sun spot activity increases again Into to 30 years of warmer weather again.
This does have 5 of 10 years of movement so it could be slightly longer cooling, or slightly longer heating effects, depends on the sun.

Thanks for the good question cos I don't mind explaining it to someone who is interested and if you look into it for yourself, look at the raw measured data if possible.

 

[banjo]

Sun spot cycles up to present day