Old McDonald
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I'm a farmers son .. so I work and farm .. I'll be working on various tasks outside of farming as well as farming as I have done since an early age. I'm not going to waste time jumping to a pointless excercise in attempting to refute science papers where £ Billions is given out freely to the chosen few.
That is a matter of politics. The political fight is far more worthwhile given it is politics which forces the Western poor to pay Climate Taxes whilst the rich gain wealth, destroy jobs and make money off imports .. imports which don't pay climate taxes.
My point all along has been that Climate Science focuses on a few gases which can be taxed, legislated and regulated. Yet all elements increase the temperature of the Earth and all contribute to cooling .. which is literally Thermodynamics. I note that includes your Climate Gases ..
Seeing as Climate Models don't work how can "Climate Science" be settled ?
In the past few years the models have so far out that the temperature data has had to be changed .. blaming the changes on the absoption of the sea.
The water cycle, milankovitch cycles and thermodynamics are all established science and more credible than "Climate Science" .. which as yet has to even show working models where the science can be repeated.
So there are your examples which I really shouldn't have to find research papers for ..
As regards your farming accomplishments, well done. As a farmers son I've kept the farm running but as we all know farming doesn't earn very much money .. so no I wouldn't be interested in doing what you have done, sorry. I have done various things in my life I am proud about but don't feel the need to brag .. I'm sure making large companies more efficient has done some measure towards "Saving the planet" whilst increasing peoples quality of life without bias.
Your the one bullying all along attempting to use 200 years of science papers like some kind of blunt weapon when faced with the fact that Climate Science just doesn't work at the moment. It's not my fault all the scientists involved can't replicate the real world nor my fault Climate Scientists change the evidence on a regular basis. This kind of bullying is seen as a behaviour throughout the Left of politics with George Monbiot using papers with total disregard of their basis in fact as justification for introducing draconian policy.
You might not have mentioned Politics but I did .. from the first post I made. I have gone over quicky what I did post and my basis has always been the same - pointing out the narrow focus of Climate Science and the fact the Western poor are punished using Climate Taxes and regulation - something I note you've never admitted.
Let me know if Climate Science one day actually replicates the real world and moves on from being a belief system.
I won't be rushing to create science papers but you can be assured I am already involved in politics and that I believe can and will make a difference.
@ollie989898 and @Dave645 have already posted pretty much the same as I would have done in a full response to you.
You are both confused and confusing. I suggest that if you are so tired and overworked that you stop posting after midnight and go to bed instead.
Climate models (which we both agree are useless) forecast the future. Nobody can do that. Any guesses must be qualified with many “If” scenarios.
You asked why I was not “saving the planet”. I merely told you what I had done. No bragging, just the way I have chosen to live my life.
Your quoted “cycles” are not settled science. We went through all this way back in this thread. You should have read the posts at the time. What is most definitely settled is the work of those to whom I have referred you on more than one occasion. They did not even recognise themselves as Climate Scientists. You refuse to accept their findings whilst at the same time refusing to give any evidence against them. So long as you refuse to do so there is absolutely no point in attempting to debate anything.
At #1731 you invent things again. Also continue with your obsession about models. I do not have any scientific papers. I can read and understand what has been demonstrated since 200 years ago, and yet again I tell you nobody has proved them wrong.