The green planet

[Dave6170]

Anyone been watching this? I haven't seen them all.
Tonight episode was going so well. Kenyans making seed booms with charcoal and spreading them all over. What a good idea, has anyone done that for spreading cover crops through a fertiliser spreader over here?

Then of course the usual dig at livestock production! I ll need to replay it but I think he said if we ate more plants and less animals, less land would would be needed therefore more land left for wild plants. I thought there wasn't enough land suitable for growing plants to feed everyone?!

 

[Ted M]

Anyone been watching this? I haven't seen them all.
Tonight episode was going so well. Kenyans making seed booms with charcoal and spreading them all over. What a good idea, has anyone done that for spreading cover crops through a fertiliser spreader over here?

Then of course the usual dig at livestock production! I ll need to replay it but I think he said if we ate more plants and less animals, less land would would be needed therefore more land left for wild plants. I thought there wasn't enough land suitable for growing plants to feed everyone?!

I just said the same thing on the countryfile thread

 

[Dave6170]

I just said the same thing on the countryfile thread

Oh right i dont read it anymore, don't watch countryfile. Drives me mad

 

[slackjawedyokel]

I hope all these vegans were watching the bit about mile after mile of monoculture almonds in California- so devoid of any nature that loads of bees have to be shipped in at pollination time (I thought vegans were against exploiting poor bees like this?). I hope they took a long, hard look at that sort of environment and compared it to the diverse environments that are UK dairying and mixed-farming (and arable) areas.

 

[Frank-the-Wool]

I thought the most striking image was of the Almond trees in a million acre block, 14 million trees and absolute monoculture.
All for lovely "milk" that is supposed to be better than the real stuff!!!

Followed by the massive risks of having such huge areas of the same sort of Pine trees that are being wiped out by a Beetle.

 

[JP1]

Anyone been watching this? I haven't seen them all.
Tonight episode was going so well. Kenyans making seed booms with charcoal and spreading them all over. What a good idea, has anyone done that for spreading cover crops through a fertiliser spreader over here?

Then of course the usual dig at livestock production! I ll need to replay it but I think he said if we ate more plants and less animals, less land would would be needed therefore more land left for wild plants. I thought there wasn't enough land suitable for growing plants to feed everyone?!

There was a report and aerial photo of the rainforest being cleared for cattle production and one holding seeking to reduce African grasses and re-instate forest.

Why not, it's about balance

 

[76masseyman]

I thought the most striking image was of the Almond trees in a million acre block, 14 million trees and absolute monoculture.
All for lovely "milk" that is supposed to be better than the real stuff!!!

Followed by the massive risks of having such huge areas of the same sort of Pine trees that are being wiped out by a Beetle.

My thoughts exactly.

 

[ZXR17]

I liked the idea of using paintball guns to carry out targeted weed control with Triclopyr from helicopters .
I can't see that label clearance for use here in the UK .

 

[76masseyman]

I liked the idea of using paintball guns to carry out targeted weed control with Triclopyr from helicopters .
I can't see that label clearance for use here in the UK .

How gung ho’ did that look. Paintball gun, in a swaying helicopter, no doubt the downdraught rocking the target tree, and the shooter trying to hit the stem. Beggars belief.

 

[ZXR17]

Sounds great doesn't it . I must speak to my boss about upgrading our sprayer to an Apache with paint ball firing machine guns for blackgrass control .

 

[DaveGrohl]

How gung ho’ did that look. Paintball gun, in a swaying helicopter, no doubt the downdraught rocking the target tree, and the shooter trying to hit the stem. Beggars belief.

Apocalypse Now?

 

[jerseycowsman]

Anyone been watching this? I haven't seen them all.
Tonight episode was going so well. Kenyans making seed booms with charcoal and spreading them all over. What a good idea, has anyone done that for spreading cover crops through a fertiliser spreader over here?

Then of course the usual dig at livestock production! I ll need to replay it but I think he said if we ate more plants and less animals, less land would would be needed therefore more land left for wild plants. I thought there wasn't enough land suitable for growing plants to feed everyone?!

Only 20% of the world’s agricultural land is suitable for growing crops for human consumption. The strokers love twisting this to say 80% of the world’s agricultural land is wasted on livestock

 

[Daddy Pig]

Only 20% of the world’s agricultural land is suitable for growing crops for human consumption. The strokers love twisting this to say 80% of the world’s agricultural land is wasted on livestock

I would have thought that most of the land used for grass / maize to make silage could be used for growing crops for human consumption, same for cereal land used for livestock feed.

 

[slackjawedyokel]

On the plus side, when DA was narrating over a dodgy-looking field of oats, it did allow me to make the obligatory ‘Oaty McOatface’ pun…

 

[texelburger]

Anyone been watching this? I haven't seen them all.
Tonight episode was going so well. Kenyans making seed booms with charcoal and spreading them all over. What a good idea, has anyone done that for spreading cover crops through a fertiliser spreader over here?

Then of course the usual dig at livestock production! I ll need to replay it but I think he said if we ate more plants and less animals, less land would would be needed therefore more land left for wild plants. I thought there wasn't enough land suitable for growing plants to feed everyone?!

Watched bits of it and thought the same.What made me irate was the clip showing the helicopter with the rifleman shooting balls of herbicide at rogue plants in the forest.I would imagine it was Roundup and I'm pretty sure I've seen a clip of David Attenborough,in the past,being critical of it and Monsanto.
Different when it suits them,hypocrites.

 

[Dave6170]

Watched bits of it and thought the same.What made me irate was the clip showing the helicopter with the rifleman shooting balls of herbicide at rogue plants in the forest.I would imagine it was Roundup and I'm pretty sure I've seen a clip of David Attenborough,in the past,being critical of it and Monsanto.
Different when it suits them,hypocrites.

I thought that bit was nonsense, bound to of been a lot of plants in the background getting killed. How accurate is a paintball gun? I didn't think they could cope with the down draft from the helicopter

 

[slackjawedyokel]

Watched bits of it and thought the same.What made me irate was the clip showing the helicopter with the rifleman shooting balls of herbicide at rogue plants in the forest.I would imagine it was Roundup and I'm pretty sure I've seen a clip of David Attenborough,in the past,being critical of it and Monsanto.
Different when it suits them,hypocrites.

Yes, I found that bit really odd. In a world where we are encouraged to view chemicals in agriculture with suspicion and farmers have to jump through all manner of hoops to use PPPs, here we were being encouraged to think that it’s a good thing that these folks were blasting away with paintballs of herbicide in what we’ve just been told is one of the most special and unique habitats on earth. While they liked to show film of the paintballs hitting their target (I wonder if those bits were staged elsewhere…), the majority would miss and kill non-target species. Also I wonder what the runoff issues were, what with the application area being near vertical. Above a waterfall/river. In a rainforest.
Presumably paintball roundup licences will now be issued in the UK to tackle tricky Japanese Knotweed invasions in rivers and the like.

Hypocrisy.

 

[topground]

David Attenborough reads a script approved by his producers and his employers. He is a TV presenter like Henson who dances to the tune of his employers, he is not the Messiah, he is not even a very naughty boy, why he is elevated to virtual sainthood is beyond me.

 

[jerseycowsman]

I would have thought that most of the land used for grass / maize to make silage could be used for growing crops for human consumption, same for cereal land used for livestock feed.

Why would an arable farmer grow crops for animal consumption that are worth less than the same crops for human consumption?
Let alone the fact it’s too wet down the west side of Britain to grow wheat or maize that’s good enough for human consumption

 

[ladycrofter]

Why would an arable farmer grow crops for animal consumption that are worth less than the same crops for human consumption?
Let alone the fact it’s too wet down the west side of Britain to grow wheat or maize that’s good enough for human consumption

The public don't like to be confused with the complicated facts. I was once told, didn't believe, then realised it is actually true -

Half the population are of below average intelligence. Frightening actually.

It is accepted that there is a ten-fold loss in energy as you go up the food chain, so in theory you can feed 10 people for one cattle beast with wheat/oats/whatever. Easy enough for the general public to grasp that fact.

Never mind as you say, the complicated details of what won't grow where. Maybe we could try turning out a mob of environmentalists on a heathery mountainside up here, and see what they can manage to grow. Apart from sheep, that is. And more heather.