The "I`ve got it" thread...

[Charlie Gill]

Exactly massage the figures so it looks like the apocalypse is upon us make it much worse than it actually is so people believe that there was nothing the Government could have done. Add in a bit of xenophobia with mutant varieties from overseas whilst forgetting that lockdown measures encourage further mutation. Then when Spring comes the death rate starts to go down and Boris and his cronies will have saved the day.

That's a new one. Please explain how a virus mutates when you restrict transmission.

 

[Muck Spreader]

Starmer is useless. I have said before on these pages I nickname him Smarmy Starmer. His own shadow ministers are as bad - very poor. Specialises in hand wringing.

To contradict myself a bit. Starmer I suppose, is playing the long game, he has little to gain atm by attacking Bozza head on. As he risks deflecting media focus from government incompetence and cronyism, to small spats between the Tories and Labour which would suit Bozza..

 

[Lowland1]

That's a new one. Please explain how a virus mutates when you restrict transmission.

Obviously if you make normal transmission difficult and as these viruses are constantly mutating you then open the door to different mutations. Every year the flu jab is altered to cope with constantly changing virus.

 

[Charlie Gill]

Obviously if you make normal transmission difficult and as these viruses are constantly mutating you then open the door to different mutations. Every year the flu jab is altered to cope with constantly changing virus.

I should have Google'd first. It's apparently copying errors, which are caused by more transmission, not less. Flu actually mutates more frequently than covid.

 

[primmiemoo]

At least the WHO has reached the conclusion that the wider gap between the first and second dose of vaccine is not a bad thing.

The They who seek to misinform for whatever reasons (from political to frotty mischief, with a wodge of mental derailment in between) are going to run out of nonsense to spin.

 

[Hindsight]

Exactly massage the figures so it looks like the apocalypse is upon us make it much worse than it actually is so people believe that there was nothing the Government could have done. Add in a bit of xenophobia with mutant varieties from overseas whilst forgetting that lockdown measures encourage further mutation. Then when Spring comes the death rate starts to go down and Boris and his cronies will have saved the day.

Indeed. And today letting Shapps slip in maybe no holidays this year. Then to allow holidays come March, that kind Mr Johnsons. It is almost the nation is under the influence of Stockholm Syndrome.

And a first today for the UK. The Prime Minister of the UK today in his press conference stated it us illegal for any UK citizen to go on holiday. I tell thee Stalin would be proud.

 

[essex man]

Are you able to provide some more info / links on the bolded please?

PM

 

[bobk]

At least the WHO has reached the conclusion that the wider gap between the first and second dose of vaccine is not a bad thing.

The They who seek to misinform for whatever reasons (from political to frotty mischief, with a wodge of mental derailment in between) are going to run out of nonsense to spin.

I think the European slating of the vaccine was purely political

 

[Hindsight]

At least the WHO has reached the conclusion that the wider gap between the first and second dose of vaccine is not a bad thing.

The They who seek to misinform for whatever reasons (from political to frotty mischief, with a wodge of mental derailment in between) are going to run out of nonsense to spin.

We will have the French contingent apologists for Napoleon next. As the News at 5 said The WHO are taking a practical approach. Is it better to have a vaccine or not even if it does have possible weaknesses. The answer is Yes.

 

[Hindsight]

I think the European slating of the vaccine was purely political

You think, just think. Of course it was Napoleon cannot help himself.

 

[Hindsight]

To contradict myself a bit. Starmer I suppose, is playing the long game, he has little to gain atm by attacking Bozza head on. As he risks deflecting media focus from government incompetence and cronyism, to small spats between the Tories and Labour which would suit Bozza..

I concurr he is not playing his correct role - letting the quite pathetic hand wringing Rayner and Dodds whittle on. Smarmy is politicking for four years hence. All of them pee poor.

 

[bobk]

Indeed. And today letting Shapps slip in maybe no holidays this year. Then to allow holidays come March, that kind Mr Johnsons. It is almost the nation is under the influence of Stockholm Syndrome.

And a first today for the UK. The Prime Minister of the UK today in his press conference stated it us illegal for any UK citizen to go on holiday. I tell thee Stalin would be proud.

I suspect there's a new policy of under estimating and over delivering , maybe

As for jollies we're at the mercy of the pathetic eu vaccination program , although I see Spain are pushing on .

 

[bobk]

You think, just think. Of course it was Napoleon cannot help himself.

I have to give a disclaimer or the europhiles will want evidence of my claims .

 

[primmiemoo]

I think the European slating of the vaccine was purely political

Thankfully, they have had their think after hearing the whys and wherefores, and are back on track to protect their citizens. So that's the political Theys set to one side for now

 

[essex man]

That's a new one. Please explain how a virus mutates when you restrict transmission.

If you restrict transmission by confining the virus to the very vulnerable (i.e. healthcare settings) then strains that reside lower in the respiratory tract are more likely to persist.
These are more harmful.

When the virus spreads amongst the asymptomatic and people with lesser symptoms then to spread it is more likely to evolve strains that reside higher in tract.

Effectively If routinely a patient in hosp A infects a patient in hosp B directly via say an ambulance driver etc then patient in hosp B is more likely to die.

If patient in hosp A infects patient in hosp B indirectly via visitor and then a thousand other people in community then visitor to patient in hosp B...patient b less likely to die.

That's the theory anyway.

 

[JCMaloney]

Tuesday........
70095 people in Leicestershire have tested positive - up from 69841 (increase 254).
31721 (increase of 111) were within the Leicester City Council area.
38374 (increase of 143) cases were reported in the County.
UHL reported 14 death's.
The death's occurred on the following days; 25th December (1), 27th December (1), 28th December (1), 31st December (1), 28th January (1), 3rd February (1), 4th February (2), 5th February (2), 6th February (3) and 7th February (1).
Total UHL death's stands at 1152.

 

[JCMaloney]

Useful tip...... buy yourself a pulse oximeter, about £20.

If you happen to get Covid use the oximeter to monitor your Oxygen stats 3 times a day.

If the level drops below 94% get in touch with 111 PDQ.

Silent hypoxia occurs frequently with Covid yet patients don`t "feel bad" until they are heading down hill far too rapidly.

We now have a "remote" Covid ward where people are at home, but contacted 3 times a day by nurses as a check up and admitted if they begin to deteriorate. Had 130 folk have gone through it and only 4 admissions from that group.

 

[bobk]

Useful tip...... buy yourself a pulse oximeter, about £20.

If you happen to get Covid use the oximeter to monitor your Oxygen stats 3 times a day.

If the level drops below 94% get in touch with 111 PDQ.

Silent hypoxia occurs frequently with Covid yet patients don`t "feel bad" until they are heading down hill far too rapidly.

We now have a "remote" Covid ward where people are at home, but contacted 3 times a day by nurses as a check up and admitted if they begin to deteriorate. Had 130 folk have gone through it and only 4 admissions from that group.

My stats were 82 ....

 

[JCMaloney]

My stats were 82 ....

Jeez are you dead?

 

[bobk]

Jeez are you dead?

Didn't feel at my best ... mind you I know someone with sats of 57 and lived , and still alive